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perfect_pitch
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Liszt - Totentanz CADENZA...
on: December 08, 2010, 02:13:40 AM
I'm trying to find out a small cadenza like passage that has not been included in the music I have bought. After hearing Valentina Lisitsa play the Totentanz, I figured I want to give it a go.
However, there is a small passage in this video:
...between 14:02 and 14:22 (not long) that she plays, that is not included in my music. My version skips right over it.
Is there anyone who can help me find just that cadenza passage? I would be seriously grateful.
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Re: Liszt - Totentanz CADENZA...
Reply #1 on: December 08, 2010, 07:15:38 AM
As far as I know, all of the spots that are marked "cadenza" in Totentanz are either supposed to be improvised or otherwise provided by the soloist, like in the Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2.
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Re: Liszt - Totentanz CADENZA...
Reply #2 on: December 08, 2010, 03:06:16 PM
But it fits so well - so well it doesn't sound like a cadenza - it just seems to flow so well, unlike an improvised cadenza...
Can anyone confim that this is just Lisitsa improvising?
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Re: Liszt - Totentanz CADENZA...
Reply #3 on: December 21, 2010, 01:44:02 PM
I really need some confirmation here...
I have looked through the score and it does not state that it is a cadenza point, so I'm either assuming - the sheet music I have is just plain crap, or I've got like a first version edition before Liszt revised the piece later on in life.
Is there ANYONE that can help me - seriously - I'm desperate.
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Re: Liszt - Totentanz CADENZA...
Reply #4 on: December 21, 2010, 07:10:33 PM
If you want answers, try your request on Pianophilia, for those folks are much smarter in this sort of field than here:
https://www.pianophilia.com/phpBB3/index.php
You might even get your request for sheetmusic filled.
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Re: Liszt - Totentanz CADENZA...
Reply #5 on: December 21, 2010, 09:53:20 PM
She appears to be attempting to play both parts of the 4 hand version (glissandi and chords on pages 132 & 133) and then going back to a earlier section of the 2 hand version (page numbered 4), perhaps slightly changed.
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Re: Liszt - Totentanz CADENZA...
Reply #6 on: December 22, 2010, 12:48:25 AM
Thanks retrouvailles, thal.
Well that's one piece of the puzzle solved... now all I need is to try and get the last bit.
Thanks for that. I wonder why Liszt didn't put that part into the solo piano transcription.
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