playing the inside of the grand piano

[nadirfend]

Techniques first established by Henry Cowell (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Cowell) - Add real-time sequencing with a laptop. Stir, and/or shake well.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1660331765/hidden-voices-of-the-grand-piano

and/or

https://www.youtube.com/nadirfend

Enjoy!

[omar_roy]

Way cool!

[nadirfend]

Thrilled that you like it...!

Repost as you're inspired. Tweet it. FaceBook it. Email it. - I can use all of the help/exposure that I can possibly get.

[thalbergmad]

Indeed cool, but yet another first post scrounger with a link to kickstarter.

Do we really want these posts here???

The right hand column of what is "available" for certain pledges looks like the price list in a whorehouse

Thal

[Derek]

That's actually really cool.  *content removed* please accept my apology.

[oxy60]

There is another step to this and that would be to bring those sequenced tracks into Pro Tools. Edit the best parts, fix the rhythm and then MAYBE you might have something. Right now it's just lounge for chill out and very common in thousands of night clubs.

[lostinidlewonder]

I love it, also shared my own interest in this here
https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=31573.0

[nadirfend]

So sorry if I offended. It was certainly not my intent.

I posted to share the techniques. - Note that I (properly) attribute the techniques to "the master" (in this case, Henry Cowell), and not only pointed to the 'kickstarter' project, but also the youtube videos.

I truly apologize for any offense.

And yes... Kickstarter... Personally, while I indeed have a grand piano, laptop, and a nice mic, I do in fact have bills to pay, and want very much to pursue a career as a 'professional' musician, which means making money (terrible stuff that it is). If Justin Beebler, Eminem, and Snoop Dog can make ga-jillions, then hey, what's so wrong with me wishing to make a few dollars doing something relatively creative? (Besides, VISA Corp has made TONS from my purchases... and the upcoming CD pressing, professional mastering, packaging, and other 'expenses' - too numerous to mention - do in fact cost money...!)

So... Hopefully... I can make some friends here in 'the other' piano forum here on the internets... and not enemies.

(And I encourage *anyone* to think-up/pursue a project on kickstarter... it's a very cool way of exposing creative projects, and having them funded by people that actually appreciate what one is doing!)

Please know that I am not "a scrounger"... just another kind-hearted (perhaps rare these says?) musician, sharing what I can with the larger world-at-large.)

Thanks for the conversation... I love 'em.

--Ferd

[birba]

But what are you going to do with your ideas?  Except for the use of a laptop and a synthesizer, we've all been there, seen it, and worn the t-shirt as far as playing inside of a grand piano.  I mean, if someone were to donate to your cause, what's in it for them?

[nadirfend]

Well... I've done some nice (in the opinion of some/many) compositions that use the 'other voices' of the piano - and have about an hours worth (i.e. a CD) of said compositions, that are being mastered, and turned into a CD (and electronic files for downloads).... for 'listening pleasure'. The 'donations' are in essence purchases of the CD (and other related 'stuff'').

I *think* this answers your question, yes?

[gyzzzmo]

I think people should make composition by slamming hammers on the piano. I'm sure some vegetarian can recognize some deep and high level music in that.

[thalbergmad]

I think people should make composition by slamming hammers on the piano.

I think some of those "New Complexity" twonks have already done that old chap.

Thal

[john11inc]

Henry Cowell is not the first composer to require a performer to play on the strings.

[nadirfend]

I sensed that he was not necessarily the first... (My post implied that... I think of him as the first 'popular' composer who made the techniques known.) - I would love to know of the others... both pre-dating HC, and after. Any guidance would be appreciated. (And if it's a bother, I will do some research when time allows.) - Thanks for the input.

--Ferd

[Derek]

*content removed* I feel embarassed for having reacted as I did. Please accept my apology.

[venik]

I loved it, and showed it to a few friends, rewatched it.

I've never seen this before so I thought it was awesome, glad you posted it.

And simply because there is negative energy in this thread I'm going to donate $30.

All I ask in return is that you ignore oversensitive grouches on your way to stardom.

[ahinton]

I have only ever required that the pianist use his/her fingers directly on certain of the upper strings of the piano in one work, my piano quintet - and the extent to which I have asked for this in that piece is such that it represents just over one-thousand's worth of the piano part of the work as a whole - just a few glissandi and that's it. The notion of the "prepared piano" has interested me in my own work not at all, since I am vastly more concerned about the prepared pianist. Each to their own, of course, but...

Best,

Alistair