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Offline soundasapound

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Tuned Gongs
on: February 20, 2011, 08:25:04 PM
Hello, I'm a drummer so I please be gentle with me.  :-[

Please can anyone tell me what the difference is between these 2 gongs:

Gong 1 is 36" in size and tuned to C2/C1

Gong 2 is 36" in size and tuned to C2#/Cis

Also which gong is tuned lower?

Sorry for all the questions, great forum and I hope I posted in the correct part.

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Re: Tuned Gongs
Reply #1 on: February 20, 2011, 08:31:53 PM
The C natural?  I'm not a gong expert though.  C natural is lower than C sharp.
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Re: Tuned Gongs
Reply #2 on: February 20, 2011, 08:35:54 PM
Bob,
many thanks.

To be honest I don't know about melody but I can tell you that the tuning is "to a Middle A of 442 Hz" according to my catalogue.

Now that I know that C# is higher that's great info but does anyone know why the 1st tuning is called C1/C2 and what does /Cis mean?

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Re: Tuned Gongs
Reply #3 on: February 20, 2011, 08:37:05 PM
C2 is theoretically lower than C#2.  However, the complex overtone characteristic of gongs may make such close pitches more difficult to hear.  

Did you mean to say C#2 / Cis 1 for gong 2?

What kind of gongs are these by the way?
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Re: Tuned Gongs
Reply #4 on: February 20, 2011, 08:45:28 PM
Quantum, thankyou.

They are Paiste Tuned Gongs (the best).

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Reply #5 on: February 20, 2011, 08:47:02 PM
C2 is theoretically lower than C#2.  However, the complex overtone characteristic of gongs may make such close pitches more difficult to hear.  

Did you mean to say C#2 / Cis 1 for gong 2?

What kind of gongs are these by the way?


Gong 2 is quoted in the catalogue I have as C#2 / Cis

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Re: Tuned Gongs
Reply #6 on: February 22, 2011, 12:17:33 AM
Bob,
many thanks.

To be honest I don't know about melody but I can tell you that the tuning is "to a Middle A of 442 Hz" according to my catalogue.

Now that I know that C# is higher that's great info but does anyone know why the 1st tuning is called C1/C2 and what does /Cis mean?



Your colleague sounds like a sharp person.
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Re: Tuned Gongs
Reply #7 on: February 22, 2011, 04:29:04 AM
Cis is just another name for C#, or C-sharp.
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Re: Tuned Gongs
Reply #8 on: February 22, 2011, 12:05:43 PM
Cis is just another name for C#, or C-sharp.

Quantam, many thanks.

This makes more sense to me know.

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Reply #9 on: February 22, 2011, 02:07:26 PM
The number following the note is the pitch group you find on an 88 key piano. So C2 is telling you both the note and the pitch...
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Re: Tuned Gongs
Reply #10 on: February 22, 2011, 05:44:09 PM
C1 is equivalent to what an organist would call 8-foot C, or C two ledger lines below the bass stave, with a fundamental of about 63Hz. C2 is an octave higher and so on.
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