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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #200 on: August 18, 2004, 03:00:48 AM
Is the composer Romantic?
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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #201 on: August 18, 2004, 03:29:55 AM
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Is the composer German?

No

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Is the composer Romantic?

Yes

(Guys, you are not carefully reading the preceeding posts...)

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #202 on: August 18, 2004, 03:40:50 AM
Ok I'm going to have a stab at it...

The heroic polonaise by chopin...?

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #203 on: August 18, 2004, 03:49:51 AM
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Ok I'm going to have a stab at it...

The heroic polonaise by chopin...?


No.

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #204 on: August 18, 2004, 05:43:07 AM
is the composer hungarian?

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #205 on: August 18, 2004, 05:56:21 AM
Is it by one of the "mighty handful"?

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #206 on: August 18, 2004, 04:09:15 PM
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is the composer hungarian?

Yes, of course, but then again, some old nationalists would object. They might say, he was half Hungarian. If they are really hardcore, they would say no.

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Is it by one of the "mighty handful"?

No, see above.

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #207 on: August 18, 2004, 05:30:35 PM
can I have a cryptic hint?

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #208 on: August 18, 2004, 05:45:31 PM
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can I have a cryptic hint?

Cryptic statement #1: There are two versions of the piece in question. The later one is usually performed today.

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #209 on: August 18, 2004, 07:50:32 PM
is it an etude?
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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #210 on: August 18, 2004, 08:10:58 PM
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is it an etude?

No.

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #211 on: August 18, 2004, 09:11:48 PM
I'll make a guess:

Liszt's Totentanz?

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #212 on: August 18, 2004, 09:27:46 PM
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I'll make a guess:
Liszt's Totentanz?

No. The piece does not involve an orchestra.

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #213 on: August 18, 2004, 11:24:35 PM
and Im sure its not Liszt, since one of the first posts said that the composer couldnt play his own works without taking a rest....  :-/

I want a cryptic hint. Im stumped. Im pretty sure who the composer is, but no clue to the work yet.
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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #214 on: August 18, 2004, 11:27:55 PM
Is the work by Ferenc Liszt?

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #215 on: August 18, 2004, 11:38:49 PM
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Is the work by Ferenc Liszt?

Yes.

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #216 on: August 18, 2004, 11:40:47 PM
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I want a cryptic hint. Im stumped. Im pretty sure who the composer is, but no clue to the work yet.

Do you still want a cryptic hint?

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #217 on: August 18, 2004, 11:51:30 PM
Is it the Liszt sonata in B minor?

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #218 on: August 19, 2004, 12:01:44 AM
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Is it the Liszt sonata in B minor?

No, too easy...

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #219 on: August 19, 2004, 12:54:42 AM
Is it a transcription?

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #220 on: August 19, 2004, 01:05:01 AM
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Is it a transcription?

Yes.

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #221 on: August 19, 2004, 01:07:09 AM
is it valse infernale from Robert le Diable????????????  ;D
transcribed by liszt???/  

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #222 on: August 19, 2004, 01:08:14 AM
and um those  :(     are supposed to be question marks i dont know why they turned into faces.

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #223 on: August 19, 2004, 01:12:31 AM
Was the composer of the original work (before it was transcribed) Italian?

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #224 on: August 19, 2004, 01:16:18 AM
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Was the composer of the original work (before it was transcribed) Italian?

No.

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #225 on: August 19, 2004, 01:21:22 AM
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is it valse infernale from Robert le Diable????????????  ;D
transcribed by liszt???/  

I only now saw your post...
No, it's not that.

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #226 on: August 19, 2004, 01:42:01 AM
I've guessed two complete titels(composer and piece) so does that mean I only have one more guess before I'm out??

If so is it an overture transcription?

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #227 on: August 19, 2004, 01:45:57 AM
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I've guessed two complete titels(composer and piece) so does that mean I only have one more guess before I'm out??

Yes, that's why you need to hone in on the solution with smart questions.

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If so is it an overture transcription?

Yes...

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #228 on: August 19, 2004, 01:57:03 AM
THEN IT HAS TO BE OVERTURE TO TANHAUSER...or does it???

Whatever my final guess is liszt's transcription of wagner's over to tanhauser

please be right.

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #229 on: August 19, 2004, 02:04:48 AM
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THEN IT HAS TO BE OVERTURE TO TANHAUSER...or does it???

Whatever my final guess is liszt's transcription of wagner's over to tanhauser

please be right.

Hooray, you got it!!!

Yes, it's the overture to Tannhäuser. Written in 1848. Liszt said there would only be a few performers capable of mastering its technical difficulties (I am not one of them  :'( ). Liszt apparently had to take a break during a couple of performances of this piece. Hearing the transcription, Wagner said "it's like a dream come true". The best recording I have is the unedited version (with some mistakes) that Jorge Bolet played just for fun - hairraising!

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #230 on: August 19, 2004, 05:00:41 AM
I can't believe I finally got one. Fantastic.

Ok I got a piece in my mind......all u get for now is that it is very rhythmic....and fun to play for beginners(or maybe intermediates) and advanced pianists.

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #231 on: August 19, 2004, 05:23:52 AM
was it a 20th century composer?

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #232 on: August 19, 2004, 05:27:56 AM
Is the composer French?
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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #233 on: August 19, 2004, 05:31:02 AM
This piece was composed in the 20th century

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #234 on: August 19, 2004, 05:32:35 AM
Yes the composer is French

Do you guys already know?

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #235 on: August 19, 2004, 05:35:50 AM
ok - here's my wild guess

Debussy - Le Petit Negre
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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #236 on: August 19, 2004, 07:26:51 AM
Sorry no its not Le Petite Negre"

When I said:
"Ok I got a piece in my mind......all u get for now is that it is very rhythmic....and fun to play for beginners(or maybe intermediates) and advanced pianists. "

change that to fun to play for intermediate and advanced pianists. It's not as easy as something like Le Petite Negre for example, which in itself may be a cryptic clue....

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #237 on: August 19, 2004, 07:46:49 AM
Debussy's Golliwog's Cakewalk?

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #238 on: August 19, 2004, 07:50:28 AM
Is it Doctor Gradus ad Parnassum?
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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #239 on: August 19, 2004, 08:20:15 AM
SWAN YOU ARE THE WINNER!

yes it was golliwogs cake walk

Man that has to be the easiest one yet...i was asked all of 2 questions that were both right and then one guess and then Swan got it right!

Good work Swan, try to stump them better than I could!

Rob

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #240 on: August 19, 2004, 01:45:17 PM
Swan:

May I suggest that you start another thread, since this one at 5 pages long takes a while to load.

Thanks,
Bernhard.
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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #241 on: August 21, 2004, 12:09:12 AM
Where are you Swan? ???

We are waiting forthe new riddle. :(
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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #242 on: March 09, 2005, 07:37:46 AM
Is there going to be a new riddle thread?  I'm finding all of this very educational.
Mad about Chopin.

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #243 on: March 09, 2005, 10:24:04 AM
did tchaikovsky write romeo and juliet for piano solo?
do you know why benches fall apart?  it is because they have lids with little tiny hinges so you can store music inside them.  hint:  buy a bench that does not hinge.  buy it for sturdiness.

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #244 on: March 14, 2005, 11:17:01 AM
Could we start this in a new thread.  I know there was a seven, but that got stuck.  And there was a new one but that was guessing the song based only on the beat.  It's not only interesting but also educational.  So could we?
Mad about Chopin.

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Re: Riddle #5
Reply #245 on: March 14, 2005, 10:49:05 PM
Could we start this in a new thread.  I know there was a seven, but that got stuck.  And there was a new one but that was guessing the song based only on the beat.  It's not only interesting but also educational.  So could we?

Ok, we will try again :P: Have a look at this new thread:

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?topic=7471.new#new

Best wishes, ;)
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