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Topic: neglected Chopin etudes  (Read 1940 times)

Offline liszmaninopin

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neglected Chopin etudes
on: August 15, 2004, 06:50:31 AM
I've always been mildly amazed at how little attention is paid to a few Chopin etudes that are among my favorites.  In op. 10, it seems like #10 (one of my favorites) doesn't attract much attention.  Out of op. 25, I personally enjoy #3 and #4 greatly.  Why don't they receive more attention?

Offline Rach3

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Re: neglected Chopin etudes
Reply #1 on: August 15, 2004, 10:32:46 AM
Very true - as well as op. 10 #7, #11, and op. 25 #8. I don't know why - maybe they look harder and less rewarding?
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Re: neglected Chopin etudes
Reply #2 on: August 15, 2004, 06:07:00 PM
I don't think it actually matter how rewarding they seem. Most people tend to pick out a 'Hits Collection' which is what they know. Most people don't bother to review all of the etudes. They just listen to other people who say: "Chopin etudes? That is Revolutionary and Winter Wind". And there it usually stops...

I fell in Love with No 9 from Op 25, and No 6 scares me. (I HATE thirds!). And I'm also a fan of No 4 (both Opuses..) and no 3 (also both opuses)... I really like the lot, I think.

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Re: neglected Chopin etudes
Reply #3 on: August 16, 2004, 12:12:51 PM
26/6 is difficult to the point where there are only actually 2-3 good recordings of it.

I think that 10/2, 10/9, 10/10 and 10/11 are all neglected, as are 25/3, 25/4 and 25/9.

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Re: neglected Chopin etudes
Reply #4 on: August 16, 2004, 07:43:08 PM
I love Op. 25, No. 8. In fact, I love all the Etudes! :)

Offline Antnee

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Re: neglected Chopin etudes
Reply #5 on: August 16, 2004, 11:20:22 PM
I love ALL the Etudes... Every one of them...
But My favs are Op. 10 nos. 4 7 9 10 11 Op. 25 nos 2 3 12 & 11 And 5   <---- I love this one so much!!!

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Re: neglected Chopin etudes
Reply #6 on: August 17, 2004, 01:57:17 AM
Ya op. 10 #10 is great!  and the one that starts with a short trill and goes into some runs....what is it op. 10 #8?, #9?? that ones good too.

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Re: neglected Chopin etudes
Reply #7 on: August 18, 2004, 01:29:36 PM
I love Op. 25 No. 1.  It's one of the most beautiful pieces to play.  Plus, the chicks really dig it.  Haha.

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Re: neglected Chopin etudes
Reply #8 on: August 18, 2004, 07:58:19 PM
You want neglected etudes?

look at the 3 posthumous etudes. They are 3 of my favorite etudes, are very good for introducing a begginer to the etudes and have some of Chopins best harmonic writing. Curiously Im willing to bet that less than a third of the people here have ever heard them, or heard OF them, much less played them.

For those of you who dont know what Im talking about, these are not op. 10 OR op. 25
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Offline larse

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Re: neglected Chopin etudes
Reply #9 on: August 18, 2004, 08:18:49 PM
ai..you should'nt be assuming anything about music when it comes to musicians. My parents, you could say: "Chopin wrote 3 posthumous etudes", and they would answer, "What is posthumous?". Unless I played it, they would'nt know that Chopin ever wrote etudes, nor what an etude actually was or whatever it meant. Commoners are all alike.

But musicians have heard Bartoks Orchestra Concerto, and know of the most obscure beethoven sonata, and know in what Piano Sonata you find the Marche Funebre by Chopin. It seems arrogant(or naive) if you assume that two thirds of the participating audience haven't heard of something as obvious as Chopin Etudes. Pherhaps an unfamous Bach Sonata for solo Flute or another Suite for chamber Orchestra by Telemann. I feel insulted.

As for the op.posth. Etudes, the one in Fm is unusually beautiful. But I would say the one in Db is a bit shallow and..the last is a bit boring. That's my opinion.

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Re: neglected Chopin etudes
Reply #10 on: August 18, 2004, 11:28:15 PM
:P   If you choose to feel insulted, thats not my problem. You're in the third that knows them... and seems to dismiss them as trivial. I still think that a big majority of the people here have not played them or heard them. Maybe the "never heard of them" part was going too far.
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Re: neglected Chopin etudes
Reply #11 on: August 20, 2004, 12:39:59 AM
What about Op. 10 No. 6? No one's mentioned it in this thread (yet, I think). I don't hear of it mentioned often at all, so is it simply too shabby in comparison to the other etudes?
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