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andyng85

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help with Ballade No. 4 Op 43 in f minor by Chopin

on: August 21, 2004, 08:22:36 PM

Hi I was just wondering should the left hand dooted rhythm align with the right hand? Cuz my urtext score says otherwise. This one is from sheetmusicarchive.

Also, does anyone know where i can download chopin etude from the internet? (Shh) KaZaA only has a few

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Re: help with Ballade No. 4 Op 43 in f minor by Ch

Reply #1 on: August 22, 2004, 12:20:55 AM

? ? ? ? ? ?

Why should it NOT align? ? ?

The rhythm is absolutely clear - sixteenth triplets in the RH and in the LH the same rhythm, except that always the first two sixteenths are merged into an eighth note.

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maxy

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Re: help with Ballade No. 4 Op 43 in f minor by Ch

Reply #2 on: August 22, 2004, 12:38:18 AM

Yes... the alignement is perfect...

No need to try to make it harder!

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andyng85

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Re: help with Ballade No. 4 Op 43 in f minor by Ch

Reply #3 on: August 22, 2004, 02:13:09 AM

I said... My URTEXT score says otherwise! That's why I'm confused... Can I have some help from someone that's actually played the ballade? Thx!

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allchopin

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Re: help with Ballade No. 4 Op 43 in f minor by Ch

Reply #4 on: August 22, 2004, 02:35:36 AM

Hmm that's strange. The urtext is unlike any version I have seen of this. The original is correct - it aligns. Elena Kuschnerva (.com) has a video and audio recording of herself, but it's a little washed out as far as quality. Otherwise, check out WinMX - might have a bit different selection that Kazaa.

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Re: help with Ballade No. 4 Op 43 in f minor by Ch

Reply #5 on: August 22, 2004, 08:11:18 PM

It's actually a good question. The two best editions (Wiener Urtext, and Paderewski) both have that measure written as dotted rhythm in the lh. Chopin was using a notational convention that was still employed in his day -where you have triplets in one hand against two notes in the other, the hand with two notes would be written as dotted rhythm. This goes back to Bach. In practice, you play the left hand as eighths and sixteenths, and they correspond with the rh (or as the first example shows).

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Re: help with Ballade No. 4 Op 43 in f minor by Ch

Reply #6 on: August 22, 2004, 08:15:07 PM

To download the études go to

http://www.sheetmusicarchive.net

The copyright has expired on them as they were published before 1929

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