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Topic: The genius of Mozart's piano sonatas  (Read 10423 times)

Offline vandermozart3

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The genius of Mozart's piano sonatas
on: June 09, 2011, 01:04:32 AM
I just read this and thought it was quite relevant to this forum :P

https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radio3/2011/01/dont-dismiss-those-mozart-pian.shtml

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Re: The genius of Mozart's piano sonatas
Reply #1 on: June 21, 2011, 11:50:36 PM
Jessica Dushen's article is well written, but there's not much evidence to back up her claim that Mozart's piano sonatas are just as good as his operas.

'Which pieces were actually written for publication?' is an interesting distinction in Mozart's output. So for example, the piano quartet in G minor K478 was published (although it didn't sell very well), but most of the piano sonatas weren't.
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Re: The genius of Mozart's piano sonatas
Reply #2 on: June 22, 2011, 06:06:38 AM
Is Jessica Dushen somebody?  The article seems rubbish to me.  K533 - 'the bubbling Susanna, grand and angry Count, the rebellious pranks of Figaro, the yearning Countess.'!?

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Re: The genius of Mozart's piano sonatas
Reply #3 on: June 22, 2011, 06:20:47 AM
First I'd like to ask, who's 'dissing' Mozart's piano sonatas to justify writing an article about it? I really don't find any relevance to this. Mozart was an operatic composer, of course his piano sonatas would be no different. Whether one enjoys them or not is subjective and has no effect on his genius.

Nothing to see here...move along.

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Offline vandermozart3

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Re: The genius of Mozart's piano sonatas
Reply #4 on: June 22, 2011, 10:36:13 AM
I've seen multiple threads on this forum that claim that his piano sonatas are insignificant, and not noteworthy.
I understand that they aren't his major compositions, but some people use this as an excuse to dismiss them as if they are unworthy of being played

Maybe you haven't seen this, in which case you have a point... but the article was a reaction to those who do NOT see the genius in Mozart's sonatas.

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Re: The genius of Mozart's piano sonatas
Reply #5 on: June 22, 2011, 11:12:58 AM
It's a shame Beethoven doesn't post here.  I think he'd have something to say to 'some people'!

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Re: The genius of Mozart's piano sonatas
Reply #6 on: June 22, 2011, 11:27:27 AM
I played and listened to Mozart sonatas in my youth and thoroughly the experience.

However, 35 years later I do not feel like revisiting them. Clementi, Woelfl, Dussek, Stamitz, Cramer and others have something to offer that can be equally rewarding.

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Re: The genius of Mozart's piano sonatas
Reply #7 on: June 22, 2011, 12:04:07 PM
However, 35 years later I do not feel like revisiting them. Clementi, Woelfl, Dussek, Stamitz, Cramer and others have something to offer that can be equally rewarding.
Yeh right.  I think I have issues with the word equally.

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Re: The genius of Mozart's piano sonatas
Reply #8 on: June 22, 2011, 12:23:30 PM
I thought some people might, which is why I used the word "can" as well ;D

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Re: The genius of Mozart's piano sonatas
Reply #9 on: June 22, 2011, 12:27:38 PM
I thought some people might, which is why I used the word "can" as well ;D

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Re: The genius of Mozart's piano sonatas
Reply #10 on: June 22, 2011, 01:56:56 PM
A bit early for my normal taste, but I will give him a bash.

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Re: The genius of Mozart's piano sonatas
Reply #11 on: November 12, 2011, 12:41:05 AM
Despite the fact that I like Mozart less than Beethoven in person, I still think his sonatas are important to study before in diploma levels, just like Beethoven. I just only studied the 2nd mvt of sonata k282 and that caused a headache.
One of the things I find difficult with Mozart is his rhythms which it takes a while to understand, at least for me.  :D
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Re: The genius of Mozart's piano sonatas
Reply #12 on: November 12, 2011, 10:07:18 AM
Despite the fact that I like Mozart less than Beethoven in person,
!?  Beethoven was an A-hole!  Mozart was as nice a guy as you could meet.

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Re: The genius of Mozart's piano sonatas
Reply #13 on: November 12, 2011, 12:38:23 PM
I mean I like Beethoven more than Mozart for some reason. I don't know much about Beethoven but maybe he was a bit nicer before he was deaf. And yes, Mozart was a nice person.
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