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Offline thelark

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Piano playing or piano singing?
on: June 09, 2011, 12:30:56 PM
     
    Should we treat all pieces like Chopin's? I often told myself---You're singing!Listen to the melodies!Ah, the joy!. I played Mozart the same way too.Or maybe every else composer. This may sound a little stupid--- I, too often ignored my left hand---made so many mistakes on it! :-[But---listen to the right hand--- it is singing! :-\ ;D

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Re: Piano playing or piano singing?
Reply #1 on: June 10, 2011, 10:00:44 AM
Both.
This is my point of view, everyone else can think differently:

Step 1: Piano Singing
So that you know where's the melody, where to start and how the melody will turn into.

Step 2: Piano Playing
After you successfully complete the singing, and complete your song's melody, and know when to turn it louder (Cresc) or softer (dim.), then try playing it and fix the notes and stuff.

Step 3: Perfection
After you complete both steps, perfect it so that what you produce in the piano is what you have in mind of the song will become.

IF I take an example it would be Glenn Gould, which sings WHILE he plays. I'm not saying to follow him but, you will need to complete both steps first, then you can do what he does (But don't sing too loud, as it will disturb the listeners)

Offline pianisten1989

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Re: Piano playing or piano singing?
Reply #2 on: June 10, 2011, 10:35:44 AM
I don't get it. Chopin wrote cantabile in his music, therefore it's obvious that we should sing with the piano.

I'm getting super annoyed with everybody saying that you should only sing in Chopin's music.

Mozart is probably the best opera composer we've ever seen, so obviously he knew a thing or two about singing. So yeah, you should sing in Mozart's music as well.

Bach wrote loads and loads of choral music and other vocal compositions, so he probably also knew something about the voice.

Schubert and Schumann wrote tons of lieds.....

Beethoven, who's also one of those "You should always sing in Beethoven" wrote a bad opera, and Chopin liked the cello... If that's enough for having a singing tone, then you should sing in basically every piece.

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Re: Piano playing or piano singing?
Reply #3 on: June 10, 2011, 03:43:44 PM
I never said that you should only sing in Chopin's music.
I put that step for EVERY music (that requires extra attention)
you sing it to figure out how the music shapes, then you try to play it according to what you sung. If that made more sense than before.

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Re: Piano playing or piano singing?
Reply #4 on: June 11, 2011, 07:52:57 PM
Oh sorry, it wasn't an attack on you. It was more to pianists in general, who can't think about anything else than to sing in Chopin and Chopin only.
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