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Offline countrymath

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Advice : Fantaisie Impromptu - like pieces
on: July 06, 2011, 02:54:38 PM
I'm looking for some pieces like Fantaisie Impromptu. Fast, and with a very defined structure, arpeggios, disjunct intervals melodies, not too long, not too short.

Grazie,

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Offline nanabush

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Re: Advice : Fantaisie Impromptu - like pieces
Reply #1 on: July 06, 2011, 03:32:43 PM
Liszt - Liebestraum

The structure is a little different, but you get the same melody being elaborated on throughout the piece (with two kick ass cadenzas!).  It's probably a little bit easier, and doesn't start as intense.  After the first cadenza you get all these awesome key changes.  What I love about this piece is that it's so playable!  There aren't any awkward passages whatsoever, and with practice anyone with any size hand can play it (as in there aren't the gigantic chords that half of pianists can't reach, or these ridiculous double note figurations that you'd see in other Liszt stuff).

Rachmaninoff - Prelude in G# minor

A little different in structure, many interludes throughout the piece.  Probably around the same level as Fantasie Impromptu (it's got larger leaps and a more difficult left hand in my opinion, but the right hand passagework isn't as bad).  A very distinct melody throughout, and one awesome thing about this piece are all the other lines you can work around with to complement the melody.

Chopin - Etude Op. 10 #12

Fast left hand, intense melody with right hand.  You've probably heard this before  ;)

Debussy - L'Isle Joyeuse

Different difficulties than the rest of the pieces; this one has very strange harmonies (compared to the other ones!), whole tone passages, and pretty noticeable meter changes with polyrhythms.  I'd probably say that this is the most difficult out of all of them based on what I've seen previously on the forum (but I'd probably have a harder time performing the revolutionary etude because my left hand is not that good), but this has some fast-as-hell passages with arpeggios, strange melodies, and is about 5 minutes long.  Check it out!
Interested in discussing:

-Prokofiev Toccata
-Scriabin Sonata 2

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Re: Advice : Fantaisie Impromptu - like pieces
Reply #2 on: July 06, 2011, 03:58:03 PM
Impromptu by Hugo Reinhold. Same key and improvisatory character, similar cantabile middle section. Showy but virtually unknown. Beautiful piece!

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Re: Advice : Fantaisie Impromptu - like pieces
Reply #3 on: July 06, 2011, 04:14:43 PM
Thank you all
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Re: Advice : Fantaisie Impromptu - like pieces
Reply #4 on: June 06, 2012, 06:23:37 PM
I would recommend Chopin - etude in C major op 10 nr 1, or Jeux d´eau. Both are awesome

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Re: Advice : Fantaisie Impromptu - like pieces
Reply #5 on: June 06, 2012, 09:35:02 PM
i've always liked the piano part to this and it stands on its own pretty well, you can always reharmonize some parts to make sure you pick up missing voices from the ensemble version.


i think the middle slow section comes through most effectively, especially w that slow swing feel.

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Re: Advice : Fantaisie Impromptu - like pieces
Reply #6 on: June 07, 2012, 11:21:05 PM
Some of the Liszt Hungarian Rhapsodies meet your criteria.
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Re: Advice : Fantaisie Impromptu - like pieces
Reply #7 on: June 13, 2012, 05:38:53 PM
Moscheles Impromptu op. 89

Listen to/play that and you will see why Chopin refused to publish his fantaisie impromptu. Here is a great video from Paul Barton about the history/tutorial of Chopin's impromptu with a lot about Moscheles's impromptu.

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Re: Advice : Fantaisie Impromptu - like pieces
Reply #8 on: June 20, 2012, 07:23:27 AM
This is a beautiful etude of Bortkiewicz,  some sections of this etude kind of gives the feeling of Chopins impromptu.

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Re: Advice : Fantaisie Impromptu - like pieces
Reply #9 on: June 21, 2012, 05:37:19 PM
Rachmaninoff Prelude Op. 23, No. 4
Debussy Arabesque No. 1
Rachmaninoff Etude Tableaux Op. 39, no. 8

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Re: Advice : Fantaisie Impromptu - like pieces
Reply #10 on: June 22, 2012, 03:36:56 AM
Scriabin etude Op. 42 No. 5?
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Re: Advice : Fantaisie Impromptu - like pieces
Reply #11 on: July 08, 2012, 08:11:13 PM
If you want a piece which you will play and everyone will say to you "Hey this sounds so similar to the fantasie impromptu" then i got just the thing for you:Impromptu in E flat by mocheles

*hint*This piece is the reason why chopin didn't want to publice his own impromptu in c sharp minor.He had great respect for mocheles and didnt want to release a piece which resembled his work so much.
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Re: Advice : Fantaisie Impromptu - like pieces
Reply #12 on: July 08, 2012, 08:23:15 PM
You could try The Lark, by Balakirev.  It's a nice little piece, similar in difficult ty the Fantasie Impromptu.

Beethoven - Sonata in C sharp minor, Op 27 No 12
Chopin - Fantasie Impromptu, Nocturn in C sharp minor, Op post
Brahms - Op 118, Nos 2 & 3

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Re: Advice : Fantaisie Impromptu - like pieces
Reply #13 on: July 17, 2012, 04:17:12 PM
Chopin Etude Op. 10 No.4 in C# minor

It will put you in the hospital.. but it's fiery! It doesn't have a beautiful middle section like the Fantasie-Impromptu, but it is a technical masterpiece.  You will have rock hard fingers once you've mastered it as well.
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Re: Advice : Fantaisie Impromptu - like pieces
Reply #14 on: July 17, 2012, 05:24:10 PM
I'd say all the fast chopin etudes, like

Etude Op.10 No.1
Etude Op.10 No.4
Etude Op.10 No.8
Etude Op.25 No.6 (maybe too hard, it's a killer for even professional pianists)
Etude Op.25 No.11
Etude Op.25 No.12

These are only SOME of the fast etudes.

I would also recommend the Chopin Impromptus Op.29 and Impromptu Op.51.
Bach Prelude and Fugue BWV848
Beethoven Piano Sonata Op.13
Chopin Etude Op.10 No.4
Chopin Scherzo Op.31
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Re: Advice : Fantaisie Impromptu - like pieces
Reply #15 on: April 12, 2021, 08:24:46 AM
Written before Chopin.

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Re: Advice : Fantaisie Impromptu - like pieces
Reply #16 on: April 12, 2021, 09:23:52 AM
Holy mother of necromancy... Though that was interesting to see. Seems likely to me that Chopin was inspired by that piece. I have also heard that the "Moonlight" sonata was the inspiration for the fantasie impromptu, but I think that the parallels are less obvious apart from the overall tonality.

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Re: Advice : Fantaisie Impromptu - like pieces
Reply #17 on: April 12, 2021, 11:18:47 AM
It's like Chopin, but without the beauty.

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Re: Advice : Fantaisie Impromptu - like pieces
Reply #18 on: April 12, 2021, 04:14:50 PM
It's kinda funny just how uninspired Chopin's heroes were. Seriously, imagine writing stuff like La Ci Darem la Mano variations op. 2, op. 11 concerto, op. 10 etudes, op. 22 Polonaise Brillante, Ballade op. 23 and all that sh*t by the age of 26 only to turn around and assign your students Moscheles, Kalkbrenner and John Field LOL. And the dude had the nerve to hate on his contemporaries' works. smh

Also if the resemblances to Moscheles' impromptu surprise you, you should look into the works of Chopin's conservatory buddies published around the mid to late 1820s.

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Re: Advice : Fantaisie Impromptu - like pieces
Reply #19 on: April 13, 2021, 08:40:05 PM
Liszt is also positively gushing about Field's Nocturnes in his foreword to one of the editions. I think they are nice, they're far from bad, and I can see how Chopin got inspired by them, but they're not THAT amazing. Unless I'm missing something  ;D
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