Thalberg

[point of grace]

Hey guys! can any of you recomend me and post here a simple piano piece by thalberg (if there is any...)
i want to start with something by him and i am sure you must know about something!
i just loved his piano concerto...

thanks!!!!!

i'm from argentina and they told me he has been here in my country!!!

[point of grace]

seriously? anybody? isn´t it public domain? or what?

[pianowolfi]

I'd check IMSLP: https://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Thalberg,_Sigismond

Thalbergmad might be able to give a more specific suggestion

[ronde_des_sylphes]

Wolfi's given you the right place to look. Specifically, try these:

https://imslp.org/wiki/24_Pensees_musicales,_Op.75_%28Thalberg,_Sigismond%29

and have a look through this set:

https://imslp.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Singing_Applied_to_the_Piano,_Op.70_%28Thalberg,_Sigismond%29

[point of grace]

thanks guys, i really appreciate this!

[point of grace]

i found simple writing here and i want to share it with you:

https://216.129.110.22/files/imglnks/usimg/3/3e/IMSLP07591-Thalberg_-_Op.79_-_3_Schubert_Melodies.pdf


https://216.129.110.22/files/imglnks/usimg/0/05/IMSLP17783-Thalberg_-_Op._62__Valse_Melodique.pdf

https://petrucci.mus.auth.gr/imglnks/usimg/6/6b/IMSLP11540-Home_sweet_home_Air_anglais.pdf

[pianoplayjl]

How about his etudes?

[allthumbs]

How about his etudes?

Here is a Russian edition of his études...

[point of grace]

gracias!!!! thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[allthumbs]

gracias!!!! thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Que son muy bienvenidos. You are very welcome.

[point of grace]

Que son muy bienvenidos. You are very welcome.

fantástico!! great!!

[benechan]

 Liszt's rival, Thalberg this year celebrates the 200th Anniversary of his birth January 2012.
Read the Piano Sage blog - Thalberg, 3 hand piano playing - Fantasia on Rossini's Moses
https://pianosage.blogspot.com/2012/01/thalberg-3-hand-piano-playing-fantasia.html

[pianoplayjl]

Thank you for posting and reminding me of Thal's birthday though it is a bit late. Thankfully someone has not forgotten the wonderful music and world of Thalberg who deserves to be heard a lot more. The fantasy was great. thx for sharing. 

JL

[ronde_des_sylphes]

Liszt's rival, Thalberg this year celebrates the 200th Anniversary of his birth January 2012.
Read the Piano Sage blog - Thalberg, 3 hand piano playing - Fantasia on Rossini's Moses
https://pianosage.blogspot.com/2012/01/thalberg-3-hand-piano-playing-fantasia.html

I don't wish to denigrate the above interesting link on what is presumably your blog, but people do seem to repeat the myth (it seems to be everywhere within the literature!) that Thalberg's three-handed effect uses purely the thumbs for the melody when a quick look at the score shows that's not the case at all (e.g. Moses; even - in a less virtuoso context - Casta Diva). The melody is fingered naturally but split between the hands, then the figurations placed around it.

[thalbergmad]

Indeed, it it written often, but is rarely the case. I think it gets confused with the harpist Parish Alvars from whom Thalberg supposedly got the idea. I understand that Parish Alvars did extract a third melody primarily with the thumbs.

Anyway, his 200th birthday is a good time to re visit his works as I did yesterday.

Regretfully, Radio 3 saw fit to infest my ears with Schumann as their composer of the week last week.

Thal

[ahinton]

Regretfully, Radio 3 saw fit to infest my ears with Schumann as their composer of the week last week.

No, it didn't! For it to have "seen fit" to do this, it would have first to have known about your loathing of Schumann and secondly been certain that, notwithstanding that loathing, you'd have listened anyway.

That said, I've asked you before and so I'll ask you again (as you've yet to answer), given that many of your musical sympathies lie with the Romantic movement, especially in its earlier days, what is it about Schumann in particular that invites such venom from you? I'm sure that people here would be interested to know more about the specific things that you so profoundly dislike in his music and, indeed, whether there are any exceptions to this in Schumann's repertoire. I'm not seeking to argue with you about this (one cannot, after all, "argue" about someone else's tastes and distastes) - merely asking you to go into some detail about this, hopefully illustrating some of your remarks with observations about particular pieces by Schumann.

Over to you!

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

Schumann is "restrained" romanticism.

That is all I have to say really.

Thal

[ahinton]

Schumann is "restrained" romanticism.

That is all I have to say really.

Interesting as the thought is, I really can't believe that this is all that you have to say and I'd not have thought that this would be anything like sufficient to warrant your uniquely deprecatory attitude towards Schumann in any case. I accept that some of his work might be regarded as "restrained" compared to some of Chopin, Liszt or Alkan (and, indeed, for all Schumann's enthusiasm for Chopin, even seeking to portray him in one short piece, Chopin himself was pretty lukewarm towards Schumann). But do you really see the Allegro Op. 8, the Fantaisie, the Piano Quintet and the Études Symphoniques as "restrained"? If so, I wonder if you've not been listening to some of the best performances.

Anyway, no obligation to say more, of course, but I'm sure that I'd by no means be the only member interested if you decided after all to do so!

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

I wonder if you've not been listening to some of the best performances.

This is a common response to my antischumannism. The problem being is that I find myself listening to an increasing amount of music that I do not care for.

Thal

[pianoplayjl]

Schumann is "restrained" romanticism.

That is all I have to say really.

Thal

Some of his works fit with that statement like the concerto  and some of his album leaves. Some of his works I find unemotional. But overall his minority of works is what makes me feel he's a great composer.

Anyway, his 200th birthday is a good time to re visit his works as I did yesterday.

Regretfully, Radio 3 saw fit to infest my ears with Schumann as their composer of the week last week.

I read about Thalberg. What an insult to his memory.

JL