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Offline pies

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Is this Sorabji guy serious?
on: August 11, 2011, 04:30:58 AM
Some of his songs are so long!!! Modern music is garbage!!!!












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Offline bachbrahmsschubert

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Re: Is this Sorabji guy serious?
Reply #1 on: August 11, 2011, 05:38:46 AM
Uh oh...

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Offline gep

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Re: Is this Sorabji guy serious?
Reply #2 on: August 11, 2011, 05:48:33 AM
Hmmm, both Youtube vids are of Finnissy, but never mind.

If you mean (basing myself on the title of this thread): "Sorabji songs are so long", you're wrong, his songs are generally only a few minutes at most. Perhaps you mean that some of Sorabji's works are long, which is correct.

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Modern music is garbage!!!!
Some of it is overly pretentious, perhaps. But to ditch all of it on the garbage heap, now thát is garbage! Not that you are to first to (ex)claim so, nor will you be the last... Already in Beethoven's time there were people who cried they'd be happy to pay if only the racket would stop (and that was about the Eroica!). Never mind, some like to explore new territory, some do not. Such is life.

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Re: Is this Sorabji guy serious?
Reply #3 on: August 11, 2011, 05:55:44 AM
Pies... you made me smile for the day. Thanks   :)

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Re: Is this Sorabji guy serious?
Reply #4 on: August 11, 2011, 09:09:29 AM
Hmmm, both Youtube vids are of Finnissy, but never mind.
And the first isn't even music by Finnissy in any case but a piece by Chris Newman performed by the composer with Michael Finnissy playing the piano.

I did once suppose that the fact that no two people's sense of humour is identical is a good thing but now I'm not so sure...

...yawn...

At least this thread is different to others containing the name Sorabji to the extent of its containing several posts without any comment on or relevance to him or his work.

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Offline forgottenbooks

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Re: Is this Sorabji guy serious?
Reply #5 on: August 11, 2011, 01:05:48 PM
Some people like it, but I don't.
"I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something; and because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do."
-Edward Everett Hal

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Re: Is this Sorabji guy serious?
Reply #6 on: August 11, 2011, 02:15:04 PM
Some people like it, but I don't.
That may be true, but does it answer the question posed by the thread topic?

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Re: Is this Sorabji guy serious?
Reply #7 on: August 11, 2011, 09:01:15 PM
Modern music is garbage!!!!

Haha I don't know anything about you, but in the nicest way possible you sound like every old man I know, this phrase is normally followed by "It's just a racket/noise"

Also would you say that Sorabji is modern? he was born in like 1892 I know he died in the 1980s as well but that style I would say is quite outdated now

but yes he was serious and I do like his work not all but who can seriously claim to enjoy every piece of some ones entire output obviously the etudes can be a bit much but then again I don't like listening to Etudes by anyone but there are some truely charming works by Sorabji heres an early example

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Re: Is this Sorabji guy serious?
Reply #8 on: August 12, 2011, 05:25:31 AM
Haha, I have yet to see a Sorabji thread that doesn't end up in arguments over very petty things. To be honest, I'm not a fan of his VERY long works, but some of his etudes and his transcription on the Feria from rhapsodie espagnole are freaking awesome.

Also, some people on this thread have probably never encountered a troll before  ;)
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Re: Is this Sorabji guy serious?
Reply #9 on: August 12, 2011, 05:59:45 AM
Haha I don't know anything about you, but in the nicest way possible you sound like every old man I know, this phrase is normally followed by "It's just a racket/noise"

Also would you say that Sorabji is modern? he was born in like 1892 I know he died in the 1980s as well but that style I would say is quite outdated now

but yes he was serious and I do like his work not all but who can seriously claim to enjoy every piece of some ones entire output obviously the etudes can be a bit much but then again I don't like listening to Etudes by anyone but there are some truely charming works by Sorabji heres an early example


Interpunction is such a wonderful invention.... ::)
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Re: Is this Sorabji guy serious?
Reply #10 on: August 12, 2011, 01:05:48 PM
Interpunction is such a wonderful invention.... ::)

Haha maybe I should starting writing my posts in dialogue form and bring back Cleanthes, Philo and Demea to discuss modern music and it's relation to the past
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Re: Is this Sorabji guy serious?
Reply #11 on: August 19, 2011, 06:20:14 AM
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Garbage!!! This kind of music makes me angry!!!!!!

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Re: Is this Sorabji guy serious?
Reply #12 on: August 19, 2011, 06:55:11 AM
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This kind of music makes me angry!!!!!!
Then don't listen to it (unless you wish to be angry, of course).

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Re: Is this Sorabji guy serious?
Reply #13 on: August 20, 2011, 03:04:09 PM
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Garbage!!! This kind of music makes me angry!!!!!!
So the criterion which decides if music is garbage or not is "how angry does it make pies"?

Just as well you are modest then....

Perhaps one should start a thread headed "stupid things musicians say"?

Since you apparently sought out this U-tube video: do you specifically look for vids that make you angry, or do you want those vids in order to get angry, or what?

Never mind, I never met pies with something worthwhile to say...
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Re: Is this Sorabji guy serious?
Reply #14 on: November 01, 2011, 07:00:27 AM
I don't think much of Sorabji's works are serious. for example the opus clavicembalisticum. I don't think that is a serious work because it is too long and too hard to be played by anyone. I don't think that piece has much meaning and significance, except that it is one of the longest piano pieces ever written.
Funny? How? How am I funny?

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Re: Is this Sorabji guy serious?
Reply #15 on: November 01, 2011, 11:46:07 AM
Modern music is garbage!!!!

There is so much 'modern music' out there that if you were to listen to all of it I'm sure you'd find something that was to your liking. You most certainly haven't heard all the modern music written so your claim that "all modern music is garbage" is in itself garbage. Maybe you should eat some humble pie and shut your pie hole.

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Re: Is this Sorabji guy serious?
Reply #16 on: November 01, 2011, 12:04:31 PM
Modern music is definitely not garbage, nor is Sorabji. its just that I listened to his opus clavicembalisticum and I found it a bit boring. I haven't heard his other works but maybe they are very great in nature.
Funny? How? How am I funny?

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Re: Is this Sorabji guy serious?
Reply #17 on: November 01, 2011, 12:23:01 PM
That was mean't for pies the op, not you  :)
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