Aggressive piece

[sisyphos]

Hi! Im looking for an aggressive piece for piano. Difficulty is not important. I played liszt s208 unstern! snistre, disastro. Does anyone know a piece like s208?

[chopinspride]

If you want a challenge  , what about the Schubert-Liszt "Erlkonig?"

John 3:16

New International Version (NIV)

 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

[sisyphos]

Thank you for advice. Its wonderful piece. I can think about it. Actually i m looking dark intended piece. Little bit scary... percussive... Aggressive

[pianoman53]

Prokofiev... His toccata and some of his sonatas, among other pieces

[rv]

check out Scriabin Prelude Op. 11 No. 14

[sisyphos]

Thank you rv. Its really good piece.

@pianoman53 i like prokofiev. Can you please specify opus number or piece name. except form diabolical suggestion.

[nataliethepianist]

Prokofiev? I think so! What about Liszt Totentaz? That would be quite the piece!

[perfect_pitch]

Prokofiev? I think so! What about Liszt Totentaz? That would be quite the piece!

Careful though - I've already broken two pianos strings trying to learn it...

[sisyphos]

Totentanz is very good piece. thank you nathalie. Now, difficulty is important. thanks to Perfect pitch

[healdie]

Shostakovich Piano Sonata No. 1
Boulez Piano Sonata No. 2
Prokofiev Visions Fugutive have some pretty aggressive moments

[perfect_pitch]

16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

What the HELL (pun intended   ) does that have to do with aggresive piano pieces?

[liszt_ani_rach]

Liszt's Nuagis Gris is scary and creepy..

[nanabush]

The first Valse Noble et Sentimentale by Ravel.  The first bar (unless you've heard the piece) is quite shocking at first listen.

Danzas Argentinas (the 3rd movement is awesome)

The 3rd sonata by Ginastera also.

Par Lui Tout a ete fait - By Messiaen (from vingt regards sur l'enfant jesus)

[sisyphos]

@liszt ani rach thank you. thats what i want when i say dark. But My creepy pieces 3 funeral odes. And its so slow that people gonna sleep or die . Totentnza is beautiful but im scare to practice its too hard i dont need that difficult.

I still need surprisingly percussive aggressive piece.

[ahinton]

OK, so how's about Xenakis's Evryali, Alkan's or Bartók's Allegro Barbaro, Finnissy's Piano Concerto No. 4 (for solo piano - no orchestra)?...

Best,

Alistair

[fftransform]

John 3:16

New International Version (NIV)

 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Excuse me, but are you lost?  This is neither the Michele Bachmann nor American Family Radio forum.

[sisyphos]

@ahinton
Thank you for your attention
I didnt tell its bad for any piece. I really like some of xenakis's compositions. i listened evryali but its like folk dance. Its up to how you hear.
Bartok is very cleaver composer. I want practice his pieces another time. And its not enough aggressive. Its just fast i think. alkan is not dark. Its good piece.

I didint heard name of Finnissy before. I really like this piano concerto. Its really good. Im searching finnissy's other compositions. I can think about it. Its wild and dark. Thank you again.

[redbaron]

Brahms - Capriccio Op 116, No 1
Dvorak - Humoresque Op 101, No 1
Mussorgsky - The Hut on Fowl's Legs from Pictures
Stravinsky - Danse infernale from The Firebird

[liszt1022]

Stravinsky - Danse infernale from The Firebird

Ah! That's it. It was on the tip of my brain.
I second this suggestion.

(The video length is misleading, it's 3 selections and the dance infernale is the first one)

[sisyphos]

Agosti version... very clever movement that start to practice it.

[mlbbaseball]

Suggestion Diabolique
Chopin Scherzo no. 1, 3

[point of grace]

rachmaninoff op. 3 no. 2
prokofieff sonata 3

[wildman]

Agreed, Prokofiev's Suggestion Diabolique. Or else, try Chopin's "Revolutionary" etude for a chaotic feel. Or, I have to admit, Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata, 1st movement (though you probably played it already) which is "dark" to the max (sounds like some sort of funeral song).

[point of grace]

Agreed, Prokofiev's Suggestion Diabolique. Or else, try Chopin's "Revolutionary" etude for a chaotic feel. Or, I have to admit, Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata, 1st movement (though you probably played it already) which is "dark" to the max (sounds like some sort of funeral song).

the 3rd movement could work too

[wildman]

the 3rd movement could work too

Indeed, but I think the 1st movement fits more in the category of being "dark".

[bluthner]

Henry Cowell's Angry Dance (supposedly written in anger over a botched dental treatment). The American Soundways recording of the composer himself playing it doesn't sound that aggressive, but then again Cowell was in his seventies by then, and the anger that had gone into composing the piece may have abated over the years...

[point of grace]

an easy and aggresive piece could be chopin op. 28 no. 22
presto agitato, take a look

[perfect_pitch]

an easy and aggresive piece could be chopin op. 28 no. 22
presto agitato, take a look

Also - remember Chopins Prelude Op 28, No. 24 in d minor - that's AGGRESIVE!   

[point of grace]

Also - remember Chopins Prelude Op 28, No. 24 in d minor - that's AGGRESIVE!   

good one!!

[dblomd]

My first semester at college I played Alberto Ginastera Prelude No 6 Tribute to Robert Garcia Morilla. That's agressive and scarey. People always looks at me like I'm crazy.

[opus10no2]

[drkilroy]

Try Ravel's Serenade Grotesque.

Best regards, Dr

[point of grace]

My first semester at college I played Alberto Ginastera Prelude No 6 Tribute to Robert Garcia Morilla. That's agressive and scarey. People always looks at me like I'm crazy.

uhhhhhhhhhhhh i love the set of the american preludes! La danza de la mosa donoza is great too... but it was already mentioned here... most of ginastera's stuff is aggresive...

[point of grace]

check this out!!! im studying this one, could be aggresive!

[refugepiano]

Liszt Totentanz, but I also suggest Ginastera's work. Look for his first Sonata. The first movement was the first piece I listened from him, and it was the last piece I listened before I left the Conservatory and my country.         

Lovely sonata...

[bugrad]

If you're looking for percussive, have you looked at the Bartok Sonata ?

[perfect_pitch]

If you're looking for percussive, have you looked at the Bartok Sonata ?

Have you considered slitting your wrists instead???

 

(I'm kidding, sorry). I've never usually found any real beauty in Bartok though, except for the Sonata he wrote in 1898.

[sisyphos]

Thank you all!

@bugrad, bartok sonata is good idea. I like bartok.

Im sorry for my english or you mixed up with the word of aggressive and passion. I mean Chopin CAN NOT be aggressive. (was he a composer?) Aggressive piece is Liszt's unstern! sinistre, disastro or bruckner some part of symps or something like that.

I change my idea. Lets start simple. If you saw a creature or devil or something else in a graveyard, which piece you would select to play for describing it.  (no black moss, devil trills)

Or if you're gonna crush a group of gang which piece select to play.

My plan is start of Liszt three funeral odes and unstern!. Im thinking ligeti etude 1 and 13 but instead im trying to compose a new piece.
Im not good pianist enough to play liszt totentanz or etudes. I love liszt but It s good if i dont play more liszt.

[pianoplayjl]

perhaps O 25 no 10 by chopin.

[pianoplayjl]

Or even Suicide in an airplane by Ornstein.

[ahinton]

Chopin aggressive? Shome mishtake, shurely?! Prelude 24 and some of the other works cited here have ample power, yes - as do parts of Ballades 1, 2 & 4, for example - but that's hardly the same thing. The nearest that I think Chopin got to aggressive is the first Scherzo, where there are not only some expressions that border on violence but also a most sgtrikingly violent contrast between the material in the Scherzo and that in the Trio.

Best,

Alistair

[pianoplayjl]

I reckon scherzo no 2 is agressive than no 1.

[ahinton]

I reckon scherzo no 2 is agressive than no 1.

If you say so, yet it doesn't include, as does the first, a fortissimo chord including a semitonal cluster (i.e. including E#, F# and G natural simultaneously) which is then hammered home with six immediate accented repetitions before leading straight into a devastating descent and a violent conclusion. That said, no. 2 is also a wonderful piece whose flights of imaginative fancy are allied to a most hypercontrolled discipline of approach that makes for a wholly convincing and compelling result that indicates, along with other workd by Chopin, how powerful was his influence upon not only Liszt but also Wagner and even Schönberg. Then, of course, there's no. 3 that, whilst being in C# minor, begins with no sense of a tonal centre whatsoever.

Don't get me going about Chopin!...

Best,

Alistair

[pianoplayjl]

Ah well. Every composer has an aggressive and some more sensitive, reflective, melancholic, sentimental pieces.

[mozartk365]

I think the third movement from Mozart's sonata in c minor is aggressive

[49410enrique]

i think the opening of this etude is pretty 'agressive' sounding, has some softer spots but overall its pretty loud and fast

Kapustin Concert Etude No. 1