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Topic: Are There Memory Capacity?  (Read 1962 times)

Offline johnjwong

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Are There Memory Capacity?
on: August 31, 2004, 02:46:59 AM
I am not sure if there is memory capacity or not to our brain(finger, audio, visual memory).  Will we forget our previous piece that we memorized if we keep on memorizing more and more piece?  About how much "length time" have you guys memorized if all the pieces you memorized are added together?  I am afraid that i will lose all my old stuff if i try to memorize new stuff.

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Re: Are There Memory Capacity?
Reply #1 on: August 31, 2004, 03:24:51 AM
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I am not sure if there is memory capacity or not to our brain(finger, audio, visual memory).  Will we forget our previous piece that we memorized if we keep on memorizing more and more piece?  About how much "length time" have you guys memorized if all the pieces you memorized are added together?  I am afraid that i will lose all my old stuff if i try to memorize new stuff.

You most certainly will forget pieces that you memorized as you learn new ones. But that doesn't mean that you would completely forget every part of the piece. All you have to do is to begin the piece over again and your brain should surely catch on.  

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Re: Are There Memory Capacity?
Reply #3 on: August 31, 2004, 04:35:34 AM
You don't forget when you remember new things. You forget because you fail to refresh your memories.

You can't 'overwrite' things you remembered. Thats because of the amazing way our brain functions.

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Re: Are There Memory Capacity?
Reply #4 on: August 31, 2004, 05:02:02 AM
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You don't forget when you remember new things. You forget because you fail to refresh your memories.

You can't 'overwrite' things you remembered. Thats because of the amazing way our brain functions.


so how do u decrease the probablity of you failing to refresh your memories?

I've noticed that short-term memories are always refreshing old ones, where as long term memory stays forever.  But I believe the memory we have for piano is a short-term memory therefore, it will refresh once new information is being input into our brain.

By the way, how many pieces have you can you guys memorized before you start forgetting old ones? I should rephrase the question, what are the maximum length of memorized piano pieces have you guys ever had?

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Re: Are There Memory Capacity?
Reply #5 on: August 31, 2004, 05:06:54 AM
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By the way, how many pieces have you can you guys memorized before you start forgetting old ones? I should rephrase the question, what are the maximum length of memorized piano pieces have you guys ever had?


So far about 7 pieces.

Though they are fairly easy.
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Re: Are There Memory Capacity?
Reply #6 on: August 31, 2004, 01:15:57 PM
johnjwong, I don't know. I just knew that about the brain.

If you look at Bernards links you will see some other topics with people talking about their experience with memorising, forgetting and remembering pieces. Obviously playing your old repertoire works, but it takes time. The more you know the more time it takes.

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Re: Are There Memory Capacity?
Reply #7 on: August 31, 2004, 04:25:09 PM
If everyday, you play the pieces you want to keep in your mind so it is always ready to be performed, can you play the pieces once daily before you start to learn new stuff? That way will you be able to polish it so that you wont forget? Will that work?

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Re: Are There Memory Capacity?
Reply #8 on: September 01, 2004, 02:30:40 AM
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If everyday, you play the pieces you want to keep in your mind so it is always ready to be performed, can you play the pieces once daily before you start to learn new stuff? That way will you be able to polish it so that you wont forget? Will that work?

When you say "once daily", do you REALLY mean playing it each day for the remainder life.

If so, you probably will not feel so oblivious or forgetful of it.
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Re: Are There Memory Capacity?
Reply #9 on: September 01, 2004, 06:49:00 PM
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When you say "once daily", do you REALLY mean playing it each day for the remainder life.

If so, you probably will not feel so oblivious or forgetful of it.


Sorry, my english is not so good so its hard to understand. What I'm trying to say here is if we are to practise on the piano, after we finished doing scales practises, should we play the pieces we want to keep in our memory first, each pieces played once.  And then spend the rest of the hour doing new repetoire.
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