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Offline 49410enrique

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Haydn 12 Short ("Easy") Piano Pieces Recording
on: November 16, 2011, 01:07:16 PM
Anyone know of a recording of these works? I have searched our music library and online all over the the place...I find nothing. I find scores (which I have both soft and hard copy) but can't find this only any CD, mp3 or anything. Does anyone know of a pianist, record labe, cd, anything in audio that has these works so I can give our librarian specific info so hopefuly he/she can procur this through interlibrary lending services (or if reasonably priced I will purchase)?

thanks for any help or direction you can provide on this.

PS i think Haydn really did have a sense of humor if the German translates to "easy" (I have seen short or easy in the title for various editions), these works are most certainly not easy lol

they really are quite charming, all of them. score.
buy
https://www.amazon.com/Haydn-Short-Pieces-Alfred-Masterwork/dp/0739024566/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1321447986&sr=8-3

dl ...below

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Re: Haydn 12 Short ("Easy") Piano Pieces Recording
Reply #1 on: November 16, 2011, 03:23:11 PM
These are not original piano works, but 'easy piano' arrangements of themes from Haydn's later symphonies (and one string quartet).  As the blurb on the Amazon page says:

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Brought together in the early part of the 19th century, some of the pieces in this collection are transcriptions of instrumental works. However, these masterfully constructed miniatures are well suited to keyboard performance and are characteristic of Haydn's humor, tenderness, charm and passion. The selections provide intermediate pianists with a wealth of musical ideas and harmonic invention, and are similar in difficulty to Haydn's Sonatinas.

So you won't find any pianist has recorded them.

If you want to hear the original versions, they are the themes from:

1.     String Quartet op. 74/2 2nd movement
2.     String Quartet op. 74/2 4th movement
3.     Symphony 94 2nd movement
4.     Symphony 93 4th movement
5.     Symphony 92 2nd movement
6.     Symphony 96 4th movement
7.     Symphony 95 4th movement
8.     Symphony 85 2nd movement
9.     Symphony 96 3rd movement
10.   Symphony 89 3rd movement
11.   Symphony 89 4th movement
12.   Symphony 89 2nd movement

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Re: Haydn 12 Short ("Easy") Piano Pieces Recording
Reply #2 on: November 16, 2011, 06:25:55 PM
These are not original piano works, but 'easy piano' arrangements of themes from Haydn's later symphonies (and one string quartet).  As the blurb on the Amazon page says:

So you won't find any pianist has recorded them.

If you want to hear the original versions, they are the themes from:

1.     String Quartet op. 74/2 2nd movement
2.     String Quartet op. 74/2 4th movement
3.     Symphony 94 2nd movement
4.     Symphony 93 4th movement
5.     Symphony 92 2nd movement
6.     Symphony 96 4th movement
7.     Symphony 95 4th movement
8.     Symphony 85 2nd movement
9.     Symphony 96 3rd movement
10.   Symphony 89 3rd movement
11.   Symphony 89 4th movement
12.   Symphony 89 2nd movement

thank you so much for your input on this! it was my understanding that these transcriptions were by Haydn on previous compositions (also by Haydn).

Still your sources of the original material will help me immensely as I listen to the 'source' for inspiration on character, musical approach, etc.

many thanka again.

PS you are very knowledgeable do you know if these transcriptions are Haydn's own or are they by some unknown hand but are attributed to Haydn as his compositions (since he is the source of the originals).

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Re: Haydn 12 Short ("Easy") Piano Pieces Recording
Reply #3 on: November 17, 2011, 01:25:41 AM
These pieces aren't listed in New Grove, or mentioned anywhere else that I've been able to consult.  I don't think there's any possibility that they're by Haydn himself.

The Russian translations in the score on the PDF suggest that they may be the work of a local Russian arranger.

My quote mentions sonatinas, but there are no authentic Haydn works originally entitled Sonatina.  Any works so called either are re-titlings of some of the simpler early sonatas that Haydn originally designated Partita or Divertimento, or are arrangements of other works.  For instance I can see that there's a

Sonatina in C
https://everynote.com/piano.show/126869.note
which is actually H XVI/7 (Landon no. 2),

and a set of 6 Sonatinas
https://imslp.org/wiki/6_Sonatinas_(Haydn,_Joseph)
which are arrangements from Haydn's baryton trios.  I'd guess that the Alfred publication of 6 Sonatinas that's also listed on Amazon is another printing of the same pieces.

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Re: Haydn 12 Short ("Easy") Piano Pieces Recording
Reply #4 on: November 17, 2011, 12:45:29 PM
These pieces aren't listed in New Grove, or mentioned anywhere else that I've been able to consult.  I don't think there's any possibility that they're by Haydn himself.

The Russian translations in the score on the PDF suggest that they may be the work of a local Russian arranger.

My quote mentions sonatinas, but there are no authentic Haydn works originally entitled Sonatina.  Any works so called either are re-titlings of some of the simpler early sonatas that Haydn originally designated Partita or Divertimento, or are arrangements of other works.  For instance I can see that there's a

Sonatina in C
https://everynote.com/piano.show/126869.note
which is actually H XVI/7 (Landon no. 2),

and a set of 6 Sonatinas
https://imslp.org/wiki/6_Sonatinas_(Haydn,_Joseph)
which are arrangements from Haydn's baryton trios.  I'd guess that the Alfred publication of 6 Sonatinas that's also listed on Amazon is another printing of the same pieces.



thank you so much much!

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Re: Haydn 12 Short ("Easy") Piano Pieces Recording
Reply #5 on: August 02, 2012, 02:35:10 PM
I have the mp3 format of the 12 short pieces by Haydn. But I guess i'm too late to reply! I can still give them to you if you happen to read this.. :)

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Re: Haydn 12 Short ("Easy") Piano Pieces Recording
Reply #6 on: August 02, 2012, 02:53:11 PM
I have the mp3 format of the 12 short pieces by Haydn. But I guess i'm too late to reply! I can still give them to you if you happen to read this.. :)
that would be super cool do u want to try to email them to me ?  two1367565@gmail.com ? Thanks for thw offer also where in the world did u find a recording ? I thought I looked everywhere :-)

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Re: Haydn 12 Short ("Easy") Piano Pieces Recording
Reply #7 on: August 03, 2012, 12:48:29 PM
hmmm, even i was looking for it, like you. But I didn't find any professional recordings. I found videos of the 12 easy pieces on youtube, its good but not free flowing. I guess that person was also trying to learn it. So i converted them to mp3 and it's decent enough to follow. Decent enough than nothing. Don't mind them?

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Re: Haydn 12 Short ("Easy") Piano Pieces Recording
Reply #8 on: August 03, 2012, 01:18:46 PM
hmmm, even i was looking for it, like you. But I didn't find any professional recordings. I found videos of the 12 easy pieces on youtube, its good but not free flowing. I guess that person was also trying to learn it. So i converted them to mp3 and it's decent enough to follow. Decent enough than nothing. Don't mind them?
yeah that's cool. it'll come in handy as a teaching resource some day in the distant future if and when i get around to not being a student anymore  :D

especially since youtube recently blocked all flash video to mp3 converters, i wouldn't be able to make it even if i tried right now, and i haven't found a good downloadable one when i can doownload flash video to my pc then convert it 'offline'

thanks for the offer and help! hopefully when i get around to learning them i can put the recording out there as a free 'amateur' resource for folks

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Re: Haydn 12 Short ("Easy") Piano Pieces Recording
Reply #9 on: August 03, 2012, 05:58:53 PM
Check your email in a while. The 12 pieces are on their way. All the best and all :-)

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Re: Haydn 12 Short ("Easy") Piano Pieces Recording
Reply #10 on: August 03, 2012, 07:48:24 PM
Check your email in a while. The 12 pieces are on their way. All the best and all :-)
:) :)
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