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Offline beebert

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Next piece by Schubert
on: December 20, 2011, 07:10:54 PM
Hi everyone! I have just finished the moment musicaux no 4 and I wonder which piece you think I can do next that is about the same standard of difficulty? I would prefer some Schubert, maybe a sonata or one of the impromptus(I have already played op 90 no 3).

Come with suggestions if you want, it would be kind! :)

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Re: Next piece by Schubert
Reply #1 on: December 20, 2011, 07:39:54 PM
this one is great , themes and variations
Schubert Impromptu op. 142 No.3 B flat major

Offline chopinlover96

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Re: Next piece by Schubert
Reply #2 on: December 20, 2011, 08:13:51 PM
Schubert Impromptus Op90 No 2 and 4
Chopin-Waltz Op.42
Brahms-Intermezzo Op.118 No.2
Field-Sonata No.1
Beethoven-Sonata Op.14 No.1
Bach-Prelude and Fugue in B flat No.21 WTC 1

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Re: Next piece by Schubert
Reply #3 on: December 21, 2011, 04:31:54 AM
you could always finish learning the whole set of op.90 impromptus :)
J.S Bach Italian Concerto,Beethoven Sonata op.2 no.2,Mozart Sonatas K.330&333,Chopin Scherzo no.2,Etude op.10 no.12&Fantasie Impromptu

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Re: Next piece by Schubert
Reply #4 on: December 21, 2011, 03:07:53 PM

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Re: Next piece by Schubert
Reply #5 on: December 21, 2011, 03:20:49 PM
What the heck is that? It is the wrong key and everything :S I played long time ago, but thanks anyway :)

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Reply #6 on: December 21, 2011, 03:41:38 PM
What the heck is that? It is the wrong key and everything :S I played long time ago, but thanks anyway :)
i rather liked that video, oh well guess it's not for everyone.

this is quite nice too

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Reply #7 on: December 21, 2011, 04:25:47 PM
that one is lovely, but not my first one of choice :P Also, it seems technically more difficult than the moment musical no 4... How about one of his sonatas? Do you know any about the same diffiulty as the no 4 moment musical or impromptu op 90 no 3? :)

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Reply #8 on: December 21, 2011, 05:13:53 PM
you seem to have your mind set on not discovering works for youself only to shoot down all suggestions made by others, i'm not trying to bash you but it's hard to help when all you do is ask for a suggestion only to immediately say no.

we genuinely try to help here so try this, and in the future you could simply just read thrhough a handful of works and see which speak to you or listen to a recording then if you still have questions about appropriateness of the repertoire for your skill level we'd be happy to unpack things then.

a nice waltz:
Waltz in G-flat Major "Kupelwieser Walzer" D.Anh 1/14 (Schubert)

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Re: Next piece by Schubert
Reply #9 on: December 21, 2011, 06:08:35 PM
Hi,
If you want to do a sonata, why not try the one in G major, Op. 78 (D.894). It's extremely beautiful and not difficult. I happen to be working on it right now.
Norman

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Reply #10 on: December 21, 2011, 06:37:18 PM
Hi jamaicaway! I have actually felt on the first movement(I guess that's the one you mean), it doesn't seem too difficult, but the second seems quite hard though, or am I wrong? :)

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Reply #11 on: December 21, 2011, 07:06:58 PM
What the heck is that? It is the wrong key and everything :S I played long time ago, but thanks anyway :)

 ;D Honestly I also thought "what the heck is that?" It's indeed not one of the most convincing interpretations...

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Re: Next piece by Schubert
Reply #12 on: December 21, 2011, 07:31:13 PM
Yes I know, but isn't that piece supposed to be in b flat major? :P Well, it is indeed a beautiful piece when it's played in the right key ;) :)

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Reply #13 on: December 21, 2011, 07:35:23 PM
Yes I know, but isn't that piece supposed to be in b flat major? :P Well, it is indeed a beautiful piece when it's played in the right key ;) :)

Well, it is played in B flat major. Only the title is wrong. And of course many notes... ;D

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Reply #14 on: December 21, 2011, 08:23:36 PM
Well, it is played in B flat major. Only the title is wrong. And of course many notes... ;D
yeah about that...sorry guys i was in between tasks and didn't filter  i just searched and went with the first one that popped up on my end.

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Re: Next piece by Schubert
Reply #15 on: December 21, 2011, 08:53:18 PM
Hi,
If you want to do a sonata, why not try the one in G major, Op. 78 (D.894). It's extremely beautiful and not difficult. I happen to be working on it right now.
Norman
I thought this was quite difficult musically. The 1st movement of the D664 sonata is very nice.
Chopin-Waltz Op.42
Brahms-Intermezzo Op.118 No.2
Field-Sonata No.1
Beethoven-Sonata Op.14 No.1
Bach-Prelude and Fugue in B flat No.21 WTC 1

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Re: Next piece by Schubert
Reply #16 on: December 21, 2011, 09:09:08 PM
Well, it is played in B flat major. Only the title is wrong. And of course many notes... ;D

Yes of course it is, how stupid can I become? :P Who would change and play it in a completely different key?(Considering the person think that b flat major is f major lol) Well, yes many notes are wrong indeed, that makes the thing even more funny..

But to Enrique, it's okay you linked the that one, because most of all I thank you for taking your time trying to help me :)

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Reply #17 on: December 21, 2011, 09:14:39 PM
I thought this was quite difficult musically. The 1st movement of the D664 sonata is very nice.

It is very difficult musically, and it's long, very long.. but when playing the first movement of D 894, one has to feel like the piece is the entire world, you have to be like in a trance and then it is actually just wonderful to play(kind of sightread the piece just a minute ago, which I have done a couple of times)...

But about the 1st movement of D664, have you decided to learn that one? :) How is it going? Do you feel like you can manage the big chords? :)

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Re: Next piece by Schubert
Reply #18 on: December 21, 2011, 09:19:46 PM
Yes I've decided to learn the D664 i can reach most of the chords. The 11th is pushing me a little bit though :P
Chopin-Waltz Op.42
Brahms-Intermezzo Op.118 No.2
Field-Sonata No.1
Beethoven-Sonata Op.14 No.1
Bach-Prelude and Fugue in B flat No.21 WTC 1

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Reply #19 on: December 21, 2011, 09:25:44 PM
Yes exactly, I actually don't have a clue how Schubert thought one is supposed to manage that chord, I know which one you are talking about :P

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Reply #20 on: December 21, 2011, 10:29:46 PM
Yes, although I am only 15 so my hands will hopefully grow a bit more :D
Chopin-Waltz Op.42
Brahms-Intermezzo Op.118 No.2
Field-Sonata No.1
Beethoven-Sonata Op.14 No.1
Bach-Prelude and Fugue in B flat No.21 WTC 1

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Re: Next piece by Schubert
Reply #21 on: December 21, 2011, 11:04:13 PM
the erlking! thats my favorite by him, but its too hard probably, just wanted to throw that out there...

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Re: Next piece by Schubert
Reply #22 on: December 22, 2011, 08:48:45 AM
isn't that a lieder? :)

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Re: Next piece by Schubert
Reply #23 on: December 22, 2011, 06:36:03 PM
isn't that a lieder? :)
it's also an etude  ;D, beautiful as it is difficult

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Reply #24 on: December 22, 2011, 07:57:28 PM
it's also an etude  ;D, beautiful as it is difficult



It sounds easier than the original.

The original, btw, is a "Lied" not a "Lieder" as the latter is the plural form.

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Reply #25 on: December 23, 2011, 04:27:13 PM
About the G major sonata: that 2nd movement is a bit hard to learn (I'm thinking of the sections with the chords and arpeggios). But once you know the notes, it's not that difficult to play.

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Re: Next piece by Schubert
Reply #26 on: December 29, 2011, 02:36:52 PM
it's also an etude  ;D, beautiful as it is difficult



It's also not by Schubert. It's Hamelin's own etude after the Goethe poem. I was listening to this and thinking "No way. Far too 20th century for Schubert." Just wanted to clarify for anyone else who, like me, can't read the title of the youtube vid.
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