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Offline pianoplayjl

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Miriam Hyde Pdf request
on: January 09, 2012, 11:05:26 AM
Please does anyone have a Pdf or sheet music for:

Water Nymph
Scherzo fantastico
Reflected reeds
Valley of Rocks



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Re: Miriam Hyde Pdf request
Reply #1 on: January 09, 2012, 12:30:25 PM
If aynone did, they would be monumentally daft to post it here as this excellent composer only passed away 6 years ago.

All the pieces you want can be ordered from the Australian Music Centre, but the costs can be extreme, or at least they were for the 2 piano concertos.

https://www.australianmusiccentre.com.au/search?page=19&type=work&wfc[]=Miriam+Hyde&sort=alphaTitleSort

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Re: Miriam Hyde Pdf request
Reply #2 on: January 10, 2012, 01:51:56 AM
Thank you for the link Thal, I'll try looking at a local music store.

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Re: Miriam Hyde Pdf request
Reply #3 on: January 10, 2012, 11:20:15 AM
Good luck old chap, but I don't think the pieces you want are published.

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Re: Miriam Hyde Pdf request
Reply #4 on: January 11, 2012, 12:31:04 AM
Thanks for telling me Thal and saving me the bother. I thought it was published around 15-20 years ago when the composer was still alive because once when I was learning a piece by her my teacher gave me the book to photocopy the piece. That was something like 3-4 years ago. The book looked soooo old I'm not sure if it survived or it has fell apart. Right now I'm contemplating learning a piece by her.

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Re: Miriam Hyde Pdf request
Reply #5 on: January 11, 2012, 08:31:11 AM
From what I have heard, she is a composer worth the effort. The 2 piano concertos are huge works in the same vein as Rachmaninoff, but I have not heard any of her solo works.

Thankfully, she composed in an romantic idiom and unlike many 20th century composers, never bothered with all that 12 tone serialist plinky plonky crap.

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Re: Miriam Hyde Pdf request
Reply #6 on: January 11, 2012, 08:51:35 AM
Thankfully, she composed in an romantic idiom and unlike many 20th century composers, never bothered with all that 12 tone serialist plinky plonky crap.
Why "thankfully"? All that one has a right to expect of any composer is that he/she writes in ways that best represent his/her thoughts. 12-note serialism may largely have had its day but it also had its raison d'être; early immersion in it helped me to think more clearly about melodic contouring, to develop my thoughts about the rôle of repetition and such like, even though I've never used any aspect of that system of working when actually writing music (other, of course, than as part of my early studies) and, although I've incorporated several 12-note themes in some of my works, I've never treated them serially. There's been fine music and some far from fine music written within the 12 note serial system - and it's probably worth remembering that the reputation of Schönberg himself would still be immense even had he not gone down that path. As to "plinky plonky", I've said before that, since it's neither a technical term nor one that carries any specific connotation that can credibly be applied to particular musical works, it's best avoided when trying to make a meaningful statement.

One aspect of the fallout from the sheer diversity of styles around today is that of young composers starting out and wondering how they should write or in what manner they might be expected to write; my advice (when I've been asked for it - which isn't as often as in other cases, as I do not teach) is always "write like Xenakis - in other words, instead of trying to write like anyone else or writing what you think others might expect of you, just be yourself and be honest in the way that you write; if you're not prepared to do that, it's probably best not to write at all".

OK, sorry for the digression - but it seems to be worth pointing out that whether a piece is any good and whether it's genuinely representative of its composer are more important aspects of it than what kind of style it happens to be in.

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Re: Miriam Hyde Pdf request
Reply #7 on: January 11, 2012, 05:27:37 PM
As to "plinky plonky", I've said before that, since it's neither a technical term nor one that carries any specific connotation that can credibly be applied to particular musical works, it's best avoided when trying to make a meaningful statement.

I have never once tried to make a meaningful statement and hopefully none of my efforts have been viewed as an attempt to do so.

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Re: Miriam Hyde Pdf request
Reply #8 on: January 11, 2012, 05:35:07 PM
I have never once tried to make a meaningful statement and hopefully none of my efforts have been viewed as an attempt to do so.
Bollox! (to quote a time-dishonoured Thalism). You've made plenty and will no doubt make plenty more!

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Re: Miriam Hyde Pdf request
Reply #9 on: January 11, 2012, 05:38:15 PM
I find it beyond amusing that you have used one of my expressions.

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Re: Miriam Hyde Pdf request
Reply #10 on: January 11, 2012, 05:41:34 PM
I find it beyond amusing that you have used one of my expressions.
Good! - and you're welcome, of course! It just seemed like the most appropriate one to use at the time and in the context concerned.

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Re: Miriam Hyde Pdf request
Reply #11 on: January 12, 2012, 02:29:39 AM
From what I have heard, she is a composer worth the effort. The 2 piano concertos are huge works in the same vein as Rachmaninoff, but I have not heard any of her solo works.

Thankfully, she composed in an romantic idiom and unlike many 20th century composers, never bothered with all that 12 tone serialist plinky plonky crap.

Thal

I've heard a few of her solo works. They ain't bad at all and like you siad, a composer worth an effort to listen to. I find that she has an affinity with the minor keys. That's what I thought when I learnt a work she composed;it was in a neo romantic style. I think she is one of my favourite female composers and Australian composers.

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Re: Miriam Hyde Pdf request
Reply #12 on: January 12, 2012, 04:13:12 AM
Thankfully, she composed in an romantic idiom and unlike many 20th century composers, never bothered with all that 12 tone serialist plinky plonky crap.

Her romantic idiom is derivative and cliché from what I have heard. Innocuous and nice, but not anything earth shattering. Oh, and I'd rather listen to well written "12 tone serialist plinky plonky crap" than poorly written neo romantic music any day.
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