BWV 974 w/ fingering

[lars_o]

Hello everyone...

I'm looking for an edition (PDF if available or a printed one I could order) of the BWV 974 Concerto that has fingerings.

I know, it would be best to work out one's own fingerings but I have had much more success studying pieces that gave me a starting point on the fingering. I'm just not on a level yet were I can comfortably work those out on my own.

If you have a version with your own fingerings worked out, maybe you could just take a snap of that with your phone and send it to me. I could just copy those to my own printed version that has no fingerings.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Lars

[pianoplayjl]

The sheet music is in the PS sheet music library. I'm not sure but you can have a try at verlag's edition and see if they have one. I usually trust Verlag to be the official Bach music edition.

JL

[lars_o]

Thanks JL,

 I think the version in the PS library has no fingerings as well.

I'm not sure I know what you mean by "Verlag's Edition" - Verlag is German for Publisher so it might be anyone? Maybe you mean this one as they carry the term "Verlag" in their actual company name: https://www.moeseler-verlag.de/indexbank.php?xId=i6Z5S5M8j5V5a8E0f7n6E5E1C9&aktion=start - Unfortunately, looking at the sample it seems like it does not come with fingerings as well...

Cheers,
Lars

[49410enrique]

it might be pretty spotty,usually 'advanced' works don't come with fingerings since i  believe publishers/editors too perhaps believe if you're advanced enough to tackle a particular difficult work your advanced enough to to figure out the fingering that works best for you.  

personal experience was that i too was not very confident in my ability to navigate certain works without fingerings but i forced myself to work very hard on some pretty beefy pieces that i had to really sit down and work at, try different fingers, go back and fix, go back and fix again, until i had it figured out. i did this several times and one day i turned around realized i had gotten better at doing it.  i think the best wayt for you to get better at it it to take the 'blank' piece and really strive to figure it out, it may not be easy but i can't think of a better way for you to improve this skill.

be that as it may,


i'll if i have this work in my archives and if it isn't explicity copyrighted and i can remember where i purchased it i'll try and respond again.

[49410enrique]

Thanks JL,

 I think the version in the PS library has no fingerings as well.

I'm not sure I know what you mean by "Verlag's Edition" - Verlag is German for Publisher so it might be anyone? Maybe you mean this one as they carry the term "Verlag" in their actual company name: https://www.moeseler-verlag.de/indexbank.php?xId=i6Z5S5M8j5V5a8E0f7n6E5E1C9&aktion=start - Unfortunately, looking at the sample it seems like it does not come with fingerings as well...

Cheers,
Lars

he probably means henle, they don't lay it all out but give some decent suggestions in tricky spots where multiple fingerings might work, what they add is usually spot on.

[pianoplayjl]

I'm not even sure if there is a Henle Verlag edition for the Bach concerti since they are a rare keyboard work by Bach. I'm just furiously speculating since Henle's edition helped me alot with my study of Bach's Preludes and fugues.

BTW, Bach stuff are really hard to figure out the fingering and I'm not surprised. I daresay even harder than some of the harder Liszt too. Sometimes writing fingering in yourself is an exercise that is necessary and indispensable to develop a good level of autonomy.

JL

[lars_o]

Thanks for all the good advice!

Henle indeed don't have this particular piece in their catalog. They usually have editions with and without fingerings. Their editions with fingerings are usually always the first I consider. As enrique said, the fact that they don't put in everything but give good suggestions for the tricky bits is really nice. Also, on the few occasions were I got to compare their fingering suggestions with other editions, I found the Henle suggestions much more natural...

I think I'l try to sit down and try to figure it out for myself (at least for the Adagio for now). Might indeed be a good way to approach the piece...

All the best...
Lars