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Offline shas

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Composition?
on: September 13, 2004, 07:44:04 PM
Hey everyone. I imagin a number of you have writen compositions of their own. I thought it might be nice if there was a thred where people could show of their work so those of you that have pleas don't be shy.
Rember atach your file as a midi file because if not some people might have older or no vertion of sibelius.
I haven't yet figured out how to attach files so if someone could help me out there I will be able to attach a few of my own.
Shas
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Offline Daevren

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Re: Composition?
Reply #1 on: September 13, 2004, 08:30:58 PM
https://80.57.240.16/Piano%20Concerto%20V2.1.MID

My piano concerto(I wont be suprised if it ends up being an concertino) in F# major, moves to the dominant pretty quick(for some reason it wants to go there that fast).

I added an unfinished piano section at the end. The midi sounds like crap, and all the articulation symbols I used in Finale got lost. Also, on my computer the piano and contrabass seem to share a midi channel, so I get double forte contrabass trought my fragite orchestration sometimes. I think its my computer but if people have the same problem I'd like to hear it.

Also the volume of the orchestra is probably not changed.

If someone wants an mp3 I could put that online too.

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Re: Composition?
Reply #2 on: September 13, 2004, 08:47:56 PM
Yes, Daevren it's sometimes hard to see the true product through midi, but it wasn't bad.
Here's the Arabian Dance (basically just harmonic dance) www24.brinkster.com/wwwdot/Arabian%20Dance.mid

I neglected to put in dynamics and expression because it's pretty futile with midi quality, so this is the 'barebones' version.

Shas: do you by chance have an account with a web provider (the 'brinkster' part of my link is my provider)?  This will give you the opportunity to put up as many midis as you'll ever wish to share with us.  If not, get back to me once you've made an account (preferably at Brinkster so it's easier to guide, but it's your choice).
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Re: Composition?
Reply #3 on: September 14, 2004, 11:05:41 AM
https://members.cox.net/silentmason2003/waltz.mid

It just ends abrubtly because I've had that file for so long.... yet I just can't decide what to do with it!!

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Re: Composition?
Reply #4 on: September 14, 2004, 12:58:45 PM
A minute I wrote about a year ago. Based on one of Mozarts first minutes (can't remeber the number)

ftp://pogotrucci:1shred1@ftp.passagen.se/MinuetF.mid

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This one I call: THE DARING Invention
It is VERY short and it changes key alot I believe.

ftp://pogotrucci:1shred1@ftp.passagen.se/inv.mid

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This is Canon I wrote in the key of Eb minor. I made a crazy remix so that one the voices go out one by one. :)

ftp://pogotrucci:1shred1@ftp.passagen.se/can.mid

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And this is my latest a favorit work; Emelie Odelbergs Minute Fantasy

ftp://pogotrucci:1shred1@ftp.passagen.se/Minute.mid

I know about counterpoint and harmony but I love changing key and get some funky uhmm whats the word... the opposite for harmony? GAH
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Re: Composition?
Reply #5 on: September 14, 2004, 11:49:50 PM
no i don't think i have an account. I'v got a hotmail e mail address and thats about it. How do I sign up to one?
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Re: Composition?
Reply #6 on: September 15, 2004, 12:01:54 AM
Oh, and i love the compositions by the way. it's grate to reflect on other peoples work. S keep them coming in
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Re: Composition?
Reply #7 on: September 15, 2004, 01:07:02 AM
Shas, this should work:
1) Sign up at https://www.brinkster.com/Order/Educational.aspx
2) It should eventually bring you back to your web page main menu options screen
3) click 'File Manager' (not classic)
4) click 'Upload' (small button in uppr right area)
5) a box pops up, click browse, and find your file on your computer (whatever midi you want to load) and click the folder on the left
6) post a link that looks like this:
www24.brinkster.com/your_user_name/your_file_nam.mid
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Re: Composition?
Reply #8 on: September 15, 2004, 01:57:25 AM
I agree. It's enjoyable to hear other people's work. It's just kind of aggravating sometimes because a lot of the times you hear something that's impressive and you wish you could write stuff like that =P

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Re: Composition?
Reply #9 on: September 15, 2004, 02:18:06 AM
Pseudopianist, I listened to your longest piece(also to the other but they were a bit short to really give comments on them).

Some interesting stuff in there. Sounds pretty much like Tonicization in Db major.

All the really interesting things happen in the melody, the left hand arps are really just there to support it harmonicly. Because of this the melody isn't always pleasing. A few times some sections end being unresolved.

Also, one thing I noticed, the augmented sounding part, you finish it on a Db triad. I don't know why but I find that using a triad chord in a more colourful harmonic context sounds really harsh. I always add a sixth to those chords. Sounds much better. Its at 1:22. In the midi the left hand is really quiet so you can't really hear it. But in Finale it sounded that way(it also messed up some note durations, importing midi's really isn't a good way).

Personally, I prefer to use diatonic melodies with non-diatonic chords(of course altering the non-diatonic chord notes in the melody over that chord).


I don't know if its normal for minuets to have such short A sections, but I think they were too short. But I also thing some Chopin preludes are too short. :)

So all in all it sounded pretty good, but I got the impression it could be much better. But I couldn't really put my finger on it. So maybe it is just taste.

No critisism at all, I just thought this topic needed more feedback. Its pretty meaningless without imo.

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Re: Composition?
Reply #10 on: September 15, 2004, 05:30:46 AM
I don't know about you guys but when I find myself suddenly struck with a new idea I soon find out that after working with it for a few days it sounds very similar to a piece I would have heard. Subconcious influence. I started writing down a piece only later to discover is sounded like something schubert had written. Same thing again happened except it sounded similar to a Ravel piece. Do you guys ever have this happen to you?
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Re: Composition?
Reply #11 on: September 15, 2004, 02:19:43 PM
Thanks for your comments Daerven. I just uppdated it but I did that before I saw your post. I will get back to you when I check up some of your changes.

Here is a sibelius file so you don't need to import:

ftp://pogotrucci:1shred1@ftp.passagen.se/Minute.sib

IF you don't have sibelius here are some jpeg pics of the score:

ftp://pogotrucci:1shred1@ftp.passagen.se/Fantasie.zip

And here is a mp3 of some parts (I barely play any thing from it.  I'm not that skilled but this will get you a idea of what I want it too sound like. The Db theme I screwed up so bad. :)  My pianoteacher sightread the whole thing. I hate him  ;) )

ftp://pogotrucci:1shred1@ftp.passagen.se/bits.mp3

(It is a bit slower then the midi I think I like this tempo more... but then again.. the other one is in largo.  :-/)

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All the really interesting things happen in the melody, the left hand arps are really just there to support it harmonicly. Because of this the melody isn't always pleasing. A few times some sections end being unresolved.


I really know what you mean. It feels like I skip to a new part once the other gets semiintressing. The Db opening needs to be longer... I don't why it is even there... maybe I should take it out and start with largo part and have it as a big final :p ?

Tonicization in Db major?  ???


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I don't know if its normal for minuets to have such short A sections, but I think they were too short. But I also thing some Chopin preludes are too short. :)


This isn't a minuet. :p It is a minute cause when the first draft was done it was only 1.26 long. :)

Where is this Db triad you are talking about? :P
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Re: Composition?
Reply #12 on: September 16, 2004, 02:07:42 PM
Right thanks allchopin, I got signed up and I imported midifiles on to the net. How do I know get it on to the piano forum?
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Re: Composition?
Reply #13 on: September 16, 2004, 08:27:36 PM
Wow that was fast - alright, now your link to the midi(s) you uploaded are how I wrote on step 6.  When you are writing about how wonderful your midis are, just type https://www24.brinkster.com/your_user_name/your_file_nam.mid and PF will make it a link automatically (given that you start the name with https:// so that it recognizes it as a link.
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Re: Composition?
Reply #14 on: September 17, 2004, 03:12:48 AM
https://www.sibeliusmusic.com/cgi-bin/user_page.pl?url=christianflorez


I know, not midi, but it uses the FREE Scorch plugin. Please listen to my music :).

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Re: Composition?
Reply #15 on: September 18, 2004, 01:13:23 AM
ok lets see if this works.
www24.brinkster.com/sharmayelverton/sonata in Gmin playable.mid
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Re: Composition?
Reply #16 on: September 18, 2004, 01:15:41 AM
nop that didn't work. take 2
www24.brinkster.com/sharma yelverton/sonata quasiuno sharma.mid
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Re: Composition?
Reply #17 on: September 18, 2004, 01:19:06 AM
ok take 3
www24.binkster.com/sharma_yelverton/sonata_quasiuno_sharma.mid
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Re: Composition?
Reply #18 on: September 18, 2004, 01:19:52 AM
Dam. What am I dooing wrong?
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Re: Composition?
Reply #20 on: September 18, 2004, 01:21:58 AM
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Re: Composition?
Reply #22 on: September 18, 2004, 01:24:31 AM
well I'm not shur if that last one worked but thats anough for now. let me know if u know what I'm dooing wrong.
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Re: Composition?
Reply #23 on: September 18, 2004, 01:39:37 AM
https://music.sketchee.com/archives/Concert%20Fantasy.mid

Follow along with the score here: https://music.sketchee.com/archives/Concert%20Fantasy%20Complete.pdf :)

Listen to it through your digital piano for best results (ie Yamaha p60 , p80 etc).  I particularly still like the second moviement.

The story behind this piece is I wrote some music for a friends animation and he wanted the music in the style of the old Tom and Jerry Cartoons. I watched so many T&J cartoons and had a lot of fun with the style so I thought I'd write a piece that was reminiscent.
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Re: Composition?
Reply #24 on: September 18, 2004, 01:46:31 AM
for those of you who can't wait to hear my scores, (lol) I have got my two A level exam peices on sib scorch at

https://www.sibeliusmusic.com/cgi-bin/search.pl?com=advancedsearch&ComposerName="Sharma%20Yelverton"&Arranger="Sharma%20Yelverton"&or=1

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Re: Composition?
Reply #25 on: September 18, 2004, 03:52:39 AM
It looks as though you're renaming the file in your link.. just use the exact name that you uploaded it as.  
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Re: Composition?
Reply #26 on: September 19, 2004, 12:32:54 PM
Here's another one. I started a Sonata. a while ago.  It only has two movements.  I've been planning on writing a third as a finale for years but never have:

https://music.sketchee.com/archives/piano%20sonata%201.mid


I really enjoyed hearing everyone's pieces!  Hope more people post theirs. :D
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Re: Composition?
Reply #27 on: September 23, 2004, 12:27:32 AM
this was one is my GCSE classical comp
http//:www.brinkster.com/sharmayelverton/sonata quasiuno sharma.mid

this one is my AS level classical comp
http//:www.brinkster.com/sharmayelverton/sonata in Gmin playable.mid

this just one of many of the unfinished things i have. I was really trying out differnt things in this. Any tips on writing fuge relevent to this one would be usefull.
http//:www.brinkster.com/sharmayelverton/stringquartet in Cmin.mid
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Reply #28 on: September 23, 2004, 12:31:35 AM
allright, those where the exact file names. I compied and pasted them. i think it's the spaces in the names thats causing the trouble. do i put an underscore betwean them or a percent sign or somthing?
god i hate it when things don't work! >:(
???
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Re: Composition?
Reply #29 on: September 23, 2004, 02:43:50 PM
A space would be a '%20'.

Als it is, https:// not http//:

Plus, check if you really uploaded the music.

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