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So ANYWAYS ANYWAYS, I talked to my old piano teacher and he said that playing anything that's uber difficult like Hammerklaiver wouldn't be a good idea cause the judges would think that you're arrogant and that you're telling them that they can't teach you anything, you're gonna teach them etc.
So ANYWAYS ANYWAYS ANYWAYS, I already started learning the Pathetique sonata for some apparent reason and I have like a page left in the first movement. But as I practicing, I realized: Pathetique is kinda overplayed and probably isn't the best audition piece.
I remember him mentioning Appasionata when I asked him if I could play a Beethoven Sonata last lesson, but I don't know if it would be a good audition piece.
does it have to be a beetoven sonata, there are some very very nice classical , romantic, or grey area classical -romantic ish, works by other composers too, maybe it would be a good idea to present them with something refreshingly different/less played? not sure though, maybe your requirements are specific to the composer?i rather like this one,hummel isn't performed much, and of what is, this one seems neglectedPiano Sonata No. 4 in C Op. 38 1st mvnt yt should link u to the other mvmnts from there
In terms of difficulties (technical, musical, etc.), the following are usually considered to be at the more advanced level:-Waldstein, Appassionata, Les Adieux and late piano sonatas (#28-32)and perhaps, they are more regularly performed than some of the others. Unless you are absolutely comfortable and confident, otherwise why take the risk?I tend to view that the highly popular Pathetique (and also Moonlight, Tempest, Pastoral) may be a bit danger, because the examiner can more easily benchmark, and probably he/she will compare yours against the masters.Perhaps you can consider #3, 4, 7, 11, 16 and 18. They remain difficult and popular, but lesser than the above mentioned ones.BTW, do you have time limit for this?
You might consider Op 14 No1 in E Major. Nice piece, right level of difficulty, and room to display virtuosity.
To LisztarianCongratulations! Op 2 No 3 isn't an easy piece.For curiosity, would you mind telling what did the winner and the 2nd runner up played?To werq34acInteresting comments on No 4 vs No 23. Personally I find No 4 is relatively less challenging than No 3 and No 23. I would consider No 23 to be highly challenging: it doesn't only require the pianist to have decent techniques but also the ability to display a great depth of musical emotions to move the audience/examiner (especially when the audience/examiner must have heard so many times).
Okay hey what's up! I figured out how to edit a thread, that's awesome!Now I need a Romantic work, a "virtuoso" or Chopin etude, and a 20th century work.For auditions do you have to play the ENTIRE work, or can you just like play some of it? Because I was thinking of playing Mendelssohn's variations op. 54 or the Rachmaninoff 6 moment musicals but my teacher said that they wouldn't let you do that because it would take too long. So would colleges let me play a 30 minute Rachmaninoff moment musical or a 10-13 minute variation? Because some colleges are like, "oh yeah you have to play an ENTIRE romantic and an ENTIRE 20th century work". Is that true? Or can I just play like three out of the 6 moment musicals? Because my teacher said that even Mendelssohns variations are too long and it's only like 10 minutes. And for my 20th century work, I have absolutely no idea what I wanna play. So please recommend a good 20th century "work". I wanted to do Debussy images book I but my teacher said that it would be too long? So would it be okay to play like just one of the movements of Debussy images? Or if I play one, do I have to play all three? But then he also said that it's not 20th century enough, and I needed something more 20th centuryish. For the "virtuoso" or Chopin etude, I don't think it should be too bad because they're kinda short and I won't spend too much time with it. But I've heard that Chopin isn't my best composer so I might try transcendental etude 10 for the school that don't require a Chopin etude.So it would be kinda kool if you guys would please help me out with this.
Well, if you think the etude will take the least time to get it done, then I am afraid that you are wrong, especially taking into consideration the Chopin etudes like the ones you mentioned. In general, college auditions take about 40 to 60 minutes. They ask you to propose the program. IF you are lucky, you will be asked to play only several works, but you might as well be asked to play the entire repertoire you have written down for the audition. I know one friend who applied for the Chopin Academy in Warsaw. Their entrance exam is soooo terribly difficult. Students had to really compete to prove who deserves to study there. I remember he played a very long program which took about 65 minutes! I remember he played:1- Bach- Prelude & Fugue WTCI #22 (5 voices)2- Beethoven- Appassionata 3- Chopin- Etude Op.25, No.14- Liszt- Transcendental Etude#4 (Mazeppa)5- Chopin- Ballade #26- Ravel- Gaspard de la Nuit (Scarbo)I might have gone way far from the subject, but he was asked to play the entire program he proposed for the auditions. Some other friends I know were asked to play the entire program with only one movement from the sonata they chose. But this does not mean you should prepare your program without caring about each & every note in it.Going back to the Romantic piece, since you have about 10 minutes or more. Perhaps you should chose a REAL romantic work with great imagination and individuality. I would suggest something more musical than technical, because you will show them your technical abilities in the etudes. I believe Liszt would be a great idea, since you said Chopin is probably not your thing. In my opinion, Vallee D'Obermann would be a fantastic piece to add, but I must say its musically VERY difficult, yet technically not the very typical Liszt everyone thinks about. If not this piece, then Perhaps a set of Mazurkas would be REALLY interesting, as Op.24 of Chopin, a cycle of four mazurkas which takes about 13 minutes to perform in total.As to the Etude, try Liszt Transcendental Etude #7 (Eroica). Trust me, it is not as difficult as it seems, but a great technical showoff work! If you are looking for easier etudes, perhaps Chopin's etude Op.10, No.9 or Op.25, No.1 and/OR No.2. The etudes YOU mentioned are more difficult than the ones I mentioned technically. If neither Liszt nor Chopin does the job for you, then MAYBE Ligeti could be the very good choice indeed. However, the rhythm will cause some MINOR difficulties in most of his etudes. I might have written a long response, but I hope there could be some light in my ideas. and If you need anything else, the guys in here will be stunning with great ideas that will surely be of great value! GOOD LUCK! Greetings from Kuwait! Is this how you respond to someone? Forgive me, I'm rather new, so I don't kno if this is how you individually respond.But thanks for your feedback! For the 20th century piece, I was thinking of trying ligeti etude 13 "the devil's staircase". Your friends repertoire was kinda tough lol. Gaspard de la Nuit for an audition?! That's risky!
Quote thingy. Lisztartian's friend played really difficult repertoire. I don't know how it is Europe, but here in America, there is almost no need to play such difficult repertoire. You really aren't there to show off what pieces you can play, but your potential for the piano. I mean if you are absolutely confident you can play those pieces, I would still avoid them unless you've been playing them for at least 3 years (Which means you've been playing those since the age of 15). Ligeti is excellent for the 20th century piece.
thingy. Lisztartian's friend played really difficult repertoire. I don't know how it is Europe, but here in America, there is almost no need to play such difficult repertoire. You really aren't there to show off what pieces you can play, but your potential for the piano. I mean if you are absolutely confident you can play those pieces, I would still avoid them unless you've been playing them for at least 3 years (Which means you've been playing those since the age of 15). Ligeti is excellent for the 20th century piece.
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