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Offline mattpiano1

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Can someone explain this to me
on: February 12, 2012, 08:47:13 PM
hey guys im curious why is it really easy to come up with melodies for chords that are in the scale but hard to come up with a melody for some chords that are out of the scale?

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Offline j_menz

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Re: Can someone explain this to me
Reply #1 on: February 13, 2012, 05:04:36 AM
Hi and welcome aboard. :D

The chord scale system, though common in jazz, is not used (or even heard of) in "classical" music, so I'm guessing many of the members here (though by no means all) will, like I did, have no idea even what you are asking. 

You may need to clarify in the title of your post that it's a jazz related question, and some people will likely jump in to answer.
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Offline ajspiano

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Re: Can someone explain this to me
Reply #2 on: February 13, 2012, 05:14:18 AM
The chord scale system, though common in jazz, is not used (or even heard of) in "classical" music

Yes it is. They just don't tell you about it until you are a long way into your studies, or teach you how to use/apply it to your instrument for even longer..  At least that was my experience, its because all the notes are written on the score in front of you you don't need to know whats going on harmonically to get by.

4th grade theory brings in cadences, which is the beginnings of this. The classical system notates chords in a slightly different way to what is commonly used in jazz or pop music though. You also start doing technical work in the high grades, things like dominant 7th arpeggios on, and of a given note.

And you don't touch on things in theory until 6th and 7th grade that are jazz 101.

Either way...

Generally, if you run into a chord outside the scale the music has probably modulated to a new key at least temporarily. You just have to find the new scale.

Thats the best I can explain without there being an actual example to look at.
 

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