Studies

[kw13091984]

Have just had a break from the piano for a couple of years and recently bought myself a piano, Bach's Goldberg Variations and Liszt Annees de Pelerinage (I played all of Italie apart from Dante sonata before I had my break)  to reintroduce myself to it. I also bought daily technical studies by Beringer. My question is about the Beringer studies, does anyone have any experience of these studies and can they tell me how useful they might be for a (reasonably) advanced pianist trying to keep good technique and discipline without a teacher? Also if they are unlikely to be useful which piano studies might be? Please help!

[kw13091984]

Don't worry about the above post I realised they were rotten and went for Czerny's exercises in piano dexterity and school of velocity studies, anyone have any experience of these studies, at a glance they look not bad, hope they are ok otherwise the guy in the shop will be fed up of me taking books back to exchange!

[bernhard]

Why waste time on exercises when you can be working on repertory? Learn Scarlatti sonatas. They will give you all the benefits Czerny claims, and at the end you will have some superb additions to your repertory.

See here for a few suggestions:

https://www.pianoforum.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=repo;action=display;num=1077145772

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

[Piazzo22]

Why waste time on exercises when you can be working on repertory? Learn Scarlatti sonatas. They will give you all the benefits Czerny claims, and at the end you will have some superb additions to your repertory.

Well, Czerny doesn´t claim anything. You should already know that it works.
The purpose of Czerny is to aquire the most natural fingerings of piano technique, so you later use that most efficient fingerings without thinking. That is not present in the pieces you practice. Czerny studies are all composed repeating in different combination of keys the same short passage so you can internalize the fingering in all positions. That is a time benefit you cannot get practicing a  Beethoven (his teacher) sonata. Unless you take a passage and repeat it in different keys, wich is not really practicing the actual piece.

[bernhard]

Well, Czerny doesn´t claim anything. You should already know that it works.
The purpose of Czerny is to aquire the most natural fingerings of piano technique, so you later use that most efficient fingerings without thinking. That is not present in the pieces you practice. Czerny studies are all composed repeating in different combination of keys the same short passage so you can internalize the fingering in all positions. That is a time benefit you cannot get practicing a  Beethoven (his teacher) sonata. Unless you take a passage and repeat it in different keys, wich is not really practicing the actual piece.

Have a look here:

https://www.pianoforum.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=perf;action=display;num=1071839238

https://www.pianoforum.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=perf;action=display;num=1078199063;start=20

Best wishes,
Bernhard.