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Topic: A bit confused....Hungarian Dance no 5?  (Read 8099 times)

Offline mango1

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A bit confused....Hungarian Dance no 5?
on: March 10, 2012, 07:52:43 PM
So I have a book of classic piano pieces, and in it is Brahms' Hungarian Dance no 5.  But when I look it up online (youtube) I keep finding a piece that is not the same as what I have.  So...is there more than one piece by this title?  And also sometimes people say things like "Hungarian Dance no 5, the hard one"...so there is a "hard" and an easier one?  I feel dumb asking this but I'm confused. 

Lastly, I am currently Royal Conservatory level 8, do think this piece is manageable for me?  I love it so much!

Thanks for your help :)

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Re: A bit confused....Hungarian Dance no 5?
Reply #1 on: March 11, 2012, 01:52:39 AM
If you're talking about the big 340 page book of Piano classics by Amsco Publishing - Yes, the Hungarian Dance in there is a very simplified version.

Their version is in a minor, and the original is in f# minor and the LH is usually a very difficult vamping section.

Check out the original arranged for Piano solo (Page 81 (17) )

https://conquest.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/9/97/IMSLP103981-PMLP16016-Brahms_Werke_Band_15_Breitkopf_JB_78_WoO_1_filter.pdf

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Re: A bit confused....Hungarian Dance no 5?
Reply #2 on: March 11, 2012, 03:38:00 PM


yes, that is the book I have.  So is there a such thing as a more complicated one in a minor?  I still don't get it.  They completely changed the piece to put in in their book?

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Re: A bit confused....Hungarian Dance no 5?
Reply #3 on: March 12, 2012, 12:13:47 AM
So is there a such thing as a more complicated one in a minor?  I still don't get it. 

Not that I know of... It's either the simplified in a minor (in that book) or the original in f# minor.

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Re: A bit confused....Hungarian Dance no 5?
Reply #4 on: March 12, 2012, 03:09:39 AM
Hungarian... rhapsody?

Brahms Hungarian Dance no. 5 goes like this:


Although this one's in g minor.
Original for 4 hands: F# minor
2 hands transcribed by Brahms: F# minor
For orchestra: g minor
For violin (difficult version): g minor
For violin (simplified version in a book I have): a minor.

That's all I'm aware of..
https://imslp.org/wiki/21_Hungarian_Dances_(Piano),_WoO_1_(Brahms,_Johannes)
does that answer your question?
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