Someone with the ability to cold read Rach 3 would have recorded like thousands and thousands and thousands of pieces and would be world famous without even trying. Their playing experience base would have to be so broad and far reaching that to even consider that famous pieces from Rach have never come under their inspection is simply unbelievable. I admit there are amazing readers out there, I have personally studied and met a few of them, but none of them admitted that being able to cold read difficult works at tempo should be an aim for sight reading skills, not a single one of them.
one of Rach's most large scale works and he only wrote 2 sonatas. A 60 year old successful classical pianist that teaches classical students for years and you are the first one to show him the first each sonata? sure.Sight reading rach 3 is probably impossible, I asked you to back up your claim. And you have no proof that Sgouros sight read it. And he didn't, obviously. Not one source anywhere says anything about it. You didn't even research about it or anything, hell you barely remembered his name. No source says anything about anyone sight reading it. The only person that believes it with you is your old man piano teacher. You did not read everyone's replies, you just said that Sgouros was mentioned 3 years ago, but he was mentioned a few days ago. You just said he was a famous pianist of course you would remember his name. Therefore you are a liar and you lose more of the little credibility you have left on piano street. The way you started the topic discouraged other members from continuing piano. You're the one who said "why even try, you are going up against super humans." You basically got owned by more intelligent piano street members in the process and then dropped the subject.calling me dumb or stupid isn't really doing anything except to expose your immaturity and lose your credibility. When people read your replies on this thread, they see that all you do is get angry and claim to not get angry, call people stupid, and try to back up claims that you've heard without any proof
Exactly, using logic like this, believing a statement that someone could sight read rach 3 at full speed is ridiculous. To not believe that someone could do it is simply the most logical thing to do.
If you could sightread a bunch of ridiculous sh*t that I throw at you, it's not possible to be able to sightread the rach 3. I already told you about the dude who literally blasted through the rach sonatas, and a bunch of random large scale works no problem. So no. It's not impossible.Additionally being successful has nothing to do with it. You can do whatever you want with your skill
I dunno what you are trying to do here, you certainly are not proving your situation not that I really need it. I don't believe that you have been dealt with honestly by this fellow you think is a reading God, he's tricked you or you are simply lying to us. I read huge amounts of pieces by sight and consider myself better than most, but even those few I have personally met and learned with who are I feel muuuuch better than I cannot cold read insane pieces like you are trying to have us believe. It is not possible you just don't get what it means by cold reading a piece for the first time, never heard it or played it ever, and to say it applies to some fantastically challenging piece like rach 3 is just hilarious, I really find this amusing. Anyone who thinks it's humanly possible just has not studied sight reading to a high level and just imagine it, like a Kung ku master can jump three stories onto a roof!!!! It's true!!
If you don't need me to prove myself then why are you talking
I already explained that it wasn't a trick. I wasn't on drugs, and he wasn't some magician. Go back and reread the situation I explained. I literally pulled RANDOM (almost)sh*t from the bookshelf and he blasted through everything. If you can explain how he was able to lie about all that THEN I might say that he was *** with me. But until then, he was legit. I doubt he was lying, and I don't have a reason to lie. It's not like I'm getting paid or anything.
Now of course he had mistakes. It wasn't perfect. When there were ledger lines like 20 lines above the stave he had to slow down to count a bit. He lost a few notes here and there but over all he just plowed through everything.Yeah you and your friends are good sight readers but I guess not good enough. Just because YOU guys can't do it doesn't mean that other people can. You just haven't come across anyone this good before. You say that he tricked me but won't even explain how. The fact that you and your buddies aren't as good as him doesn't mean anything. You not being able to imagine it doesn't mean anything. That's not how you construct a good counter argument.
I'm typing cos I can, don't you want response? I'm sorry if you wanted people agreeing with you only. Also to let people know that I am in the same boat as those who believe what you say is fantasy.Your mind power tricks are useless against me. I'm sorry but you have not proved anything you are just hoping that we believe you, but based on my vast experience in sight reading what you say is bull crap.lol so I bet he played rach 3 in its entirety too, play for you for a few hours right? Lololololol ok rach this post is the weirdest I've seen you, didn't know u were this delusional. Oh and one of my so called friends is Roger Woodward.
Bruh are you illiterate? I told you I've seen sh*t like this before so I don't have too much trouble believing that he sightread it. Of course I don't know for sure that he did it. You can't be 100% sure of anything. But I think it's pretty believable. Even if he didn't do it I'm pretty sure it's possible.Sorry but your dumb post is so full of fallacies that it doesn't deserve any recognition. Don't tell me what I should or shouldn't remember.If a simple thread like this discouraged others from continuing piano, then they shouldn't be playing piano anyways. How do you even know if it DID discourage anyone?Bruh you're the eimmature one. why are you trying to rail on me about a topic I got over with THREE YEARS AGO. I was still in highschool back then I don't remember or care about anything I said. Let go of the past this is stupid. You intentionally bring up stupid sh*t JUST to start an argument with someone. And you know that. Grow up Kid it's dumb.
Not pertaining to the string of arguments I posted
You "seeing" stuff like this before doesn't prove that a Sgouros sight read Rach 3. So you just admitted you have no proof that he did it, you just believe he did it with no proof. We're arguing because you said Sgorous sight read rach 3 and I said he didn't. finally you admit this is all just speculation based on seeing an old 60 year old piano teacher read through your sonata. So since the burden of proof is on you to prove he did it, you are wrong.stop trying to sound smarter than you actually are. If you were smarter you wouldn't be sitting on your computer all day in your mom's basement writing lightning quick replies to anyone who critiques what you're saying on piano street.com while being saddened about geniuses on youtube.I'd let go of the past if you admit you were wrong in the past, but you seem to never admit you're wrong. If you don't remember of care about anything you said, then why are you still defending what you said back then anyway? you might as well ignore me
LOL how do you always reply to what I say within like 5 mins? are you constantly refreshing piano street while eating donuts in your moms basement? you better clean the donut crumbs off your piano too. How's that used up computer chair doing? do you need a new one? its getting tired from your ass sitting on it all day
I think he's forgotten that this forum actually has professional pianists who have dedicated their life to the art and it is very simple for us to know bs when we hear it. He just sounds like some kid who thinks piano is cool!!! Lol
Well how you act here I find that hard to believe too now.
What can be deduced from how you express yourself speaks volumes of your piano knowledge in sight reading at least.
If you would EXPLAIN, how he duped me, I would be happy to listen and admit that I'm wrong. But until then I'm holding my ground.
Not trying to change what you think but just offering my skeptisism since I study with teacher who can sightread the likes of Xenakis but never admitted he can simply do it all instantly without analysis beforehand. Cold reading and reading something you have much experience with are leagues a part. To blur that and say there are people who can cold read anything, it's just silliness, and I don't want to write pages describing how sight reading works!
What the heck is this even possible?! Why even try?! (Sorry accidentally repost (Read 3814 times)
