Video In old-Fantaisi Impromptu

[johnmar78]

Folks,
I did this while ago with cheap hitachi video cam, the sound is quite dry as compared to latest akg mics. There are few spots needs to fix up. We never satifified with our recording and this is a human nature that drives your mad. so where is the stop.

I am planing to redo this with my new akg mics. Could you please give me a contructive feed backs good/bad. I will start diging that out in between my Bach works.

Yes, SAY it what you want to say, dont hold back

Thanks very much

[blink83]

Parts of it were really nice, the other parts just need a bit more work. Seems like at some points you're not exactly sure of the notes (or else you're just missing them on the technically difficult parts, as I see this was your first take) and it certainly needs to feel more cohesive overall, especially in the A theme. Oh and the tempo is sometimes a bit sporadic. B theme was great

[starstruck5]

You play this with great assurance and tenacity.   I always think the part just before the Moderato Cantibile section needs to played far far slower than most pianists actually do -it needs to have a kind of counter gravitational pull away from the maelstrom of the first allegro section -then when the lyrical section begins it becomes more profound.

Another thing that stood out for me was that towards the end of the piece with that repeated motif in the Right hand -it needs to be very subordinate to the left hand melody -the first time in the piece the melody is in the bass -so this needs to be very epic, but calm -that sense of dying away all encompassing -like the end of the world to me!

[pianoplunker]

Folks,
I did this while ago with cheap hitachi video cam, the sound is quite dry as compared to latest akg mics. There are few spots needs to fix up. We never satifified with our recording and this is a human nature that drives your mad. so where is the stop.

I am planing to redo this with my new akg mics. Could you please give me a contructive feed backs good/bad. I will start diging that out in between my Bach works.

Yes, SAY it what you want to say, dont hold back

Thanks very much

No offense, but it sounds sloppy.  Better microphones will only bring out the wrong notes clearly. I think if you play just a little bit slower and softer would sound better.

[johnmar78]

thanks very much for your feedbacks. Yes, after comparing to the new recording rigs, the old Hitachi camera mic's is horrible , that was before I "discorverd" a better method. You know, not all pianist how to do there recordings untill lots trials and error . Yes, Bink, I will improve my section A, and Start, I will look into that. a smatter of fact I deleberate did two differnt tempos to give a big contrast. So I will do a better one soon. 

John

[candlelightpiano]

John, I enjoyed your performance.  I'm also learning this piece.  I began a few months ago and then, took a vacation from it for 4 - 6 weeks when I got too stressed with it.  Started up again a few weeks ago and I keep having problems with measure 34.  When I work on both 33 and 34, it's fine but when I start from say, bar 25, I muddle it up again so how did you get it?  Last page is a challenge.  I'm not playing anywhere as fast as you, though.  What is your tempo for the fast passages?

[johnmar78]

Hi Candle, thanks for listening.

Tell you a story, when i was 14 i first heard this op66, it was so nice, i said it to my self "if i can play it' it must be a miracle. So, it was too hard even I tried. When I was 20, my gf told me if you can play this it is going to be awesome as she played down on me that she knew i could not play. So this is my true motivation WHY I want to do this Op66. So I did it 5 years after when I set my heart for it. Now Its time for me to RETAKE> When you older you are wiser .

Bar 33/34 you need train your 321 chromatics slowly and tototal relaxzation, keep firm and still(I will post a short video later on in student section plus other technical stuff help you guys to relax your fingers). From Bar25 upward, this is what I USED to do. I do LH Fortimiso and listen to group of 6. Untill I can play the whole section evenly and locked in the head(momorised).
Next try only few bars that you entry your RH in correct timing after LH by EAR. Once you get hang of it. Use metronome for a short time to see if you timed 100% accurate.

This piece required lots finger dexterity at the time I have not 100% mastered it, but now I should. This means, all notes should be articulated in my new take this year.
Bear in mind, you can not have speed without relaxzation, vice versa. but you do really need to train your each finger independly ONE by ONE before your can use the word "totoal relaxzation" as long as wthin control limit.

ps, if you listened to many profesional pianist playing thta will make your hands more stressful, because you tried to play like them, my tip for today is to play at YOUR OWN CONTROLLED SPeed not comparing youself with others.
I hope this helps.

[candlelightpiano]

Thanks for the tips, John and it's wonderful that you plan on making a video to show relaxation and other tips.  If you do a video, can you post it on my FI project thread.  It's in the Student's Corner.  :

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=44068.500

At this time, I'm only playing at my tempo as there's no way I can play like the pros!    Bar 34 was better yesterday with a different focus on it.  I think it's both a psychololgical roadblock at this time as well as a physical but maybe more psychological as I've messed up on it so many times I keep thinking it's going to happen again.  So I'm trying to retrain my thinking as well as my technique of course. 

Thanks also for sharing your inspiration for this piece with me.  As for me, it's just been a piece I've always wanted to play but never thought I'd be able to so last December, after a 19 year hiatus from piano, I joined PS and began my FI project.  Birba was great with his tutorial videos from beginning to end and I completed the piece a few weeks ago.  AJ was also a big help, being there for us through the project and also making videos.  I did take a 4-6 week vacation from it as I was getting stressed and tensed from being the focus on the thread.  Started up again a few weeks ago and now just ironing out problem areas on that bar and on the last page.  So I feel that I've already accomplished a lot, just completing this piece that I thought I'd never be able to play past bar 8!     It will take a long time to play it very well, though, but that's okay.  I see it as a lifetime project.  I'm hoping to make a practice video soon to show my progress. 

[candlelightpiano]

John:  Thanks for the relaxation exercise video.  I'll do it everyday for 20 mins, like you do.  I'm sure it will be a great benefit to me.

[johnmar78]

NP Choo, remember, apply his principle on your op66, work from pp to fortimisso.

[candlelightpiano]

I'll do that, John.  Thanks for your suggestions and assistance with this.  It's my favorite piece but my most challenging.  And I'll also work on the suggestions you gave me to practise at half speed HS and HT.  What is NP?