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Offline johnmar78

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13-6-12Update(Video) project chopin etude op10-4
on: May 05, 2012, 01:06:12 PM
Hi folks,,

Here is my 13-6-12 latest update .....with video

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All feedbacks are welcome..

thanks

Offline natalyaturetskii

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Re: project chopin etude op10-4
Reply #1 on: May 05, 2012, 01:20:28 PM
That's quite good! I think that you should focus more on the dynamics, for example at the start it is 'f' and in bar 1, it says 'fp'. Then there is a crescendo from piano towards the forte in bar 4. I think you had a few slips in the fourth bar with the octaves, so try to make that a little clearer. I'd also work on the voicing a bit more, so try to make the melody ring out more in bar three with the syncopated 'G# A, F# G#, etc.' Also, when the left hand takes over the melody in the fourth beat of bar 4, make sure that the right hand is just an accompaniment and not too prominent.

But well done, keep going!

Natalya
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Re: project chopin etude op10-4
Reply #2 on: May 05, 2012, 02:27:14 PM
thansk Nata, this is just a quide line for me, to get allnotes even first and articulated before I can add all dynamics. Thanks again for your time.

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Re: Update project chopin etude op10-4
Reply #3 on: May 09, 2012, 03:24:27 PM
here you go folks, my latest update. I still need to fix up my mid section and the ending..

All comments are welcome as this is my inprocess take.

Please pay attention to my articulation....thanks

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Re: Update project chopin etude op10-4
Reply #4 on: May 09, 2012, 07:45:14 PM
i don't see any update on your post... is it the "speed test" on the 1st post?

If it's the case i think you make lots of progress that's good. However there are numerous things that you should look at especially :
- dynamics (i agree with natalya). I think you make a mistake in thinking that you need to master all the note before considering the dynamics. Everything need to be worked in a whole. You can't just decide to learn all the note like a computer and then decide to think on how should the music sound ;)
Understanding and working the dynamics in the same time will help you with your phrasing, your pedalling, your fingering, etc... Everything is important ;)

- TEMPO, it's not because you're doing a speed test that you can accelerate where there is no indications of. Be very aware of that or you're going to develop bad habit.

- articulations&evenness, do this work at all kind of speed and listen always to yourself to check that every sixteenth note is exactly as the previous one in a matter of touch. At this stage

Well...re-reading me it's just what Natalya has already said. So you know what you need to work ;)
Keep up the good work and hope to hear your next version soon :)

Steone.
Currently woking on :
- 8 fantaisiestucke op.12 (Schumann)
- Nocturnes op.27 n°1&2 (Chopin)
- Les cloches de Genève from "Année de pèlerinage" (Liszt)
- Chaconne in G major HWV 435 (Handel)

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Re: Update project chopin etude op10-4
Reply #5 on: May 10, 2012, 06:10:15 AM
thanks Steone, yes, the speed test is my quick update. I am enjoying this piece very much, now I can feel the melody and fire in the piece.

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Re: 11-5-12Update project chopin etude op10-4
Reply #6 on: May 11, 2012, 02:25:31 PM
Folks, here is my latest 11-5-12 update, please refer to page one.

I could not get video syn, I think know why now, I recoreded thru battery pack(digital recorder), this is second time happened that video wont syn exactly to sound track); I must use EXTERNAL AC power supply when recording. This is tascam's internal error-incosistent voltage supply ...


Please pay attention to my articulation, I also worked on my dynamics. Still not happy with the middle section )3/4 finger(bar26-29) that I need to ring the tone more. Have your say, I will polish further...ta..

Offline iratior

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Re: 11-5-12Update project chopin etude op10-4
Reply #7 on: May 20, 2012, 07:23:10 AM
That's the way, JohnMar78!   With enough determination, you'll be able to do this piece.  I'm determined to do it, too, but for different motives.  I maintain that, for me anyway, opus 10 no. 4 is easier than several others:  25/8, 25/4, 10/5, 10/8, and 25/9.  That opinion seems to have scandalized certain factions here, for whom it seems as though belief that 10/4 is hardest is something of an article of religion.  If I can ever get anyone to help me put my recordings on the internet, all I need to do to prove them wrong is show that I can get through 10/4;  I may not do it perfectly but I can do it, in contrast to not being able to do the others.

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Re: 13-6-12Update project chopin etude op10-4
Reply #8 on: June 14, 2012, 04:11:33 PM
here you go ladies and gents, have your say....
I actually use Roys technique in conjunction with mine....

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