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Topic: Scherzo no 1 Chopin  (Read 2308 times)

Offline chopin2015

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Scherzo no 1 Chopin
on: August 16, 2012, 07:16:03 PM
Im learning the last page, everything cool. What the..?!! Did they just ask me to put my 2 on the e sharp and my one on the f sharp?!! Theres no way around it either because you are to go an octave up with your 5 so that is why your 1 has  to be on the f sharp. :( Does anyone have any comments or suggestions regarding this? It made me angry.
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Offline werq34ac

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Re: Scherzo no 1 Chopin
Reply #1 on: August 16, 2012, 07:33:05 PM
Read the notes carefully, you don't need a hand larger than a 9th for those chords. And remember your thumb is perfectly capable of playing two notes at once.
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Offline davidjosepha

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Re: Scherzo no 1 Chopin
Reply #2 on: August 16, 2012, 07:38:55 PM
Well, given that most people here probably haven't played the piece, you'd do well to be a bit more specific. The only place I can find that seems to relate to your question is the measure (my measures aren't numbered) with the right hand playing E-sharp, F-sharp, F-sharp octave, A-sharp, C-sharp, F-sharp, and the left hand playing an F-sharp octave followed by an A-sharp and E natural?

If you don't like 2 1 5, I didn't have too much trouble playing with 1 2 5, although it's a slight stretch. I don't know your hand size so I don't know of that'd work for you.

I don't think 2 1 5 is a bad fingering though. That's what I'd use. Just play the E-sharp high on the white key, like this...



...and it shouldn't be too awkward having your 2 cross over.

Actually, it feels pretty comfortable to me

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Re: Scherzo no 1 Chopin
Reply #3 on: August 16, 2012, 08:52:26 PM
It is just such a naughty thing to ask. Cross over your 2 with your 1 on a black note....
:P
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Offline landru

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Re: Scherzo no 1 Chopin
Reply #4 on: August 16, 2012, 10:16:35 PM
It is just such a naughty thing to ask. Cross over your 2 with your 1 on a black note....
:P
Well, it is a scherzo! Time to be naughty and jokey.

Offline werq34ac

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Re: Scherzo no 1 Chopin
Reply #5 on: August 16, 2012, 11:33:56 PM
Oops wrong measure. Yeah it's not that bad once you gain a bit of horizontal momentum.
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Offline mike_lang

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Re: Scherzo no 1 Chopin
Reply #6 on: August 17, 2012, 03:09:11 AM
Im learning the last page, everything cool. What the..?!! Did they just ask me to put my 2 on the e sharp and my one on the f sharp?!! Theres no way around it either because you are to go an octave up with your 5 so that is why your 1 has  to be on the f sharp. :( Does anyone have any comments or suggestions regarding this? It made me angry.

Yes, that's exactly right, and it is the best fingering for the passage in question.  You just have to mess with the hand position until it works :-)
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