How long?

[jorley]

If one is at the level of playing the Chopin Op 10 No 3, Op 10 No 12 and Op 48 no 1, how many years would you say that it would take for the AVERAGE person to reach the level of playing his Op 49 Fantasie and Op 60 Barcarolle?

And if one is at the level of playing Beethoven's Op 13 and Op 90, how many years away would you say that the AVERAGE person is from being able to learn and play his Op 109 and Op 110?

Also, which one would you consider harder, Chopin's Barcarolle or his Fantasie Op 49?

Thanks

[chopin2015]

What do you play right now and have been working on? Have you been taking classical piano lessons? (classical being the key word, not just piano lessons) I assume yes, you have been looking at Chopin intermediate level pieces?  I suggest a Polonaise instead of the Fantasie, first. Have you looked at those? They are of length, too! The Rev. Etude is light in the right hand, and the left hand is broken down. I think it is approachable if you have been playing faster pieces, and are accepting of the whole gaining speed with correct practice and patience thing.  Please respond and explain further how you are preparing right now?
 Do you study theory? Do you have a teacher? How long have you been playing?

[jorley]

I play the pieces I mentioned(Op 10 3, Op 10 12, Op 48 1 by Chopin and Op 13 and Op 90 by Beethoven) and many more pieces, like Italian Concerto, E minor and B flat minor Prelude and Fugues from WTC Book 1, Schubert Impromtus, Mozart K310, Etc... But I my goal is to be able to play pieces like Chopin's Op 49 and Op 60, and Beethoven's late sonatas.. And I just want to know how many years ahead they are.. I have been playing for almost 4 years, and I practice for about 4-6 hours a day.. I study theory and Music history for about 30 minutes a day.. I am between teachers, I will have my first lesson with my new techer next week

So basically, at the level I am now, how many years ahead of me are Chopin's Op 49 and Op 60 and the late Sonatas by Beethoven? Which is more reasonable to start with of the late sonatas by Beethoven(Op 110 looks like the most reasonable) and the two Chopin?

[chopin2015]

Like I said, try a Polonaise and see how that goes for you. There are other longer, much less complicated pieces like the first Scherzo by Chopin. If you play those etudes, you should be able to get through those pieces without needing too much help from your teacher. Then your teacher could help you work on the pieces you are most interested in.

[jorley]

I see, but if you would like to answer my question I would be very glad I mean, in general, considering the pieces I play, how many years away would I be from being at the level of learning Chopin's Barcarolle and Fantasie, and Beethoven's late sonatas, like Op 109 and 110?

[chopin2015]

It just depends how hard the said etudes were for you. Like I said. Try the polonaise and see how long it takes you, give yourself just a month or two, three at the most. I bet you could start looking at those pieces then. That's a year or two in dog years.

[lelle]

You probably have technique enough to "execute the notes" in the barcarolle, but if you got the musicality needed is another question that no one here can answer.

[jorley]

Is the Nocturne Op 48 No 1 harder than the Barcarolle?