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Offline chinyew93

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Which one is harder?
on: September 09, 2012, 02:18:27 AM
Hi, I am now currently playing Fantasie Impromptu and I am suffering so much at the coda part. Any tips of practising on that part? The front part I am quite okay with it, so I just want to know is there any way to practising my fingering for the ending part.

Another question is, now I have just completed Fantasie Impromptu, I am planning to start with Nocturne Op 48 No 1, but I realize that the Doppio Movimento part is freaking hard. So is it better for me to start with Moonlight Sonata 3rd Mov.? Or Revolutionary Etude?

In comparison between the 3 pieces, which one is the hardest and which one is the easiest?
Thank you so much for spending your time to answer! =)

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Re: Which one is harder?
Reply #1 on: September 09, 2012, 02:51:37 AM
I have worked on all of those pieces(except that specific nocturne, I play the op 15 no 2 and it has doppio movimento), and just like everything that has wide stretches and is fast, just start slow and even, and eventually you will naturally pick up the speed. Just make sure to keep things even, listen to the pieces a lot so you subconsciously set yourself to play what you hear when you are practicing without the sheet. I promise, patience will help you the most.
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Re: Which one is harder?
Reply #2 on: September 09, 2012, 02:57:01 AM
If you are having trouble with the fingering, let me know, I probably have a couple different ones written down somewhere. It is up to you which piece you will work on next. I like the Beethoven piece the most. It is very fun, especially the trills!
"Beethoven wrote in three flats a lot. That's because he moved twice."

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Re: Which one is harder?
Reply #3 on: September 09, 2012, 12:54:12 PM
To make something out of Op 48 No 1 is FAR harder than to make something out of Op 10 No 12 or Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata... Actually, learning the notes of Op 48 No 1 is also quite alot harder IMO.

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Re: Which one is harder?
Reply #4 on: September 09, 2012, 05:17:41 PM
Hi, I am now currently playing Fantasie Impromptu and I am suffering so much at the coda part. Any tips of practising on that part? The front part I am quite okay with it, so I just want to know is there any way to practising my fingering for the ending part.

Another question is, now I have just completed Fantasie Impromptu, I am planning to start with Nocturne Op 48 No 1, but I realize that the Doppio Movimento part is freaking hard. So is it better for me to start with Moonlight Sonata 3rd Mov.? Or Revolutionary Etude?

In comparison between the 3 pieces, which one is the hardest and which one is the easiest?
Thank you so much for spending your time to answer! =)

The Nocturne in my opinion is possibly one of Chopin's most advanced miniatures. The doppio movimento's voicing is impossible to do at the speed that you most often hear professionals playing at unless you're damn good at articulating so.

I'm no expert, but I would go for the revolutionary etude...getting the left hand to speed is a pain, but it's a piece that you can pick up rather easily (hence it is the only Chopin etude i can play properly)

I've given the Beethoven a try, and I honestly thought it was ridiculously physically taxing. But that's just me

Offline danhuyle

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Re: Which one is harder?
Reply #5 on: September 10, 2012, 10:03:33 AM
A frequently asked question. I'm practicing 3 out of 4 myself.

I learned Chopin Etude Op10 No12 way before I even considered the others.

I'm alternating between Moonlight Sonata and Nocturne Op48 No1, though the Moonlight Sonata 3rd movement is more of a given compared to the nocturne.

Fantaisie Impromptu just doesn't seem to fall under my fingers at this point.

For me, I'm learning moonlight sonata, and practicing the doppio movimento of the nocturne slowly.

I'm more focused on Liszt's La Leggierezza since it's so good I want to play the thing. I would just recommend Moonlight Sonata and that's where I'm going next.
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Offline beebert

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Re: Which one is harder?
Reply #6 on: September 10, 2012, 10:27:21 AM
Danhuyle, I guess you mean that the Nocturne is the hardest, right?

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Re: Which one is harder?
Reply #7 on: September 11, 2012, 05:42:24 AM
Danhuyle, I guess you mean that the Nocturne is the hardest, right?

For now, it's a yes. I'm still on the technical side of the nocturne op48/1 and from what I'm experiencing it's intense. I don't have much to say about the musical side of it.

I think the nocturne requires the most stamina compared to moonlight sonata and etude op10 no12.
I played the 4 Ballades and 4 Scherzi, etudes op10 no9,12 and Op25 No11,12 and the nocturne is giving me a really hard time in comparison to the mentioned Chopin pieces.

This is based on my experience only. Otherwise, follow your heart and let that guide you.
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Re: Which one is harder?
Reply #8 on: September 11, 2012, 05:57:57 AM
I think the nocturne requires the most stamina compared to moonlight sonata and etude op10 no12.
I played the 4 Ballades and 4 Scherzi, etudes op10 no9,12 and Op25 No11,12 and the nocturne is giving me a really hard time in comparison to the mentioned Chopin pieces.

If 48/1 is giving you more trouble than the 4 Ballades then somewhere you are doing something seriously wrong.  :o
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Re: Which one is harder?
Reply #9 on: September 11, 2012, 08:20:21 AM
Actually, to play the Nocturne just about right, makes it one of Chopin's harder pieces IMO. The emotional content and demands on the right phrasing and pulse in that piece are HUGE. Harder than the ballade, in terms of playing the notes? Most certainly no, but it's not that far away(at least not from the 3rd one).
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