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Offline scherzo123

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Are these pieces doable?
on: September 18, 2012, 03:52:38 PM
So...are these pieces doable?

Beethoven Piano Sonata Op.53
Beethoven Piano Sonata Op.57
Beethoven Piano Sonata Op.81a
Beethoven Piano Sonata Op.109
Liszt Transcendental Etude No.10
Liszt Paganini Etude No.2
Liszt Paganini Etude No.4
Liszt Paganini Etude No.5
Liszt Paganini Etude No.6
Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody No.2
Chopin Ballade Op.23
Chopin Polonaise Op.53
Balakirev Islamey
Mussorgsky Pictures at an Exhibition
Scriabin Etude Op.8 No.9
Scriabin Etude Op.8 No.12
Scriabin Etude Op.42 No.5
Scriabin Piano Sonata No.2
Rachmaninoff Moment Musicaux Op.16 No.4
Rachmaninoff Prelude Op.23 No.2
Debussy Prelude "Feux d'artifice"
Ravel Miroirs No.3
Prokofiev Suggestion Diabolique Op.4 No.4

I know it's a lot of pieces, but these are just some of the pieces that I want to do in the future, and I want to have some insight from you guys about the difficulties of these pieces. Thanks.
Bach Prelude and Fugue BWV848
Beethoven Piano Sonata Op.13
Chopin Etude Op.10 No.4
Chopin Scherzo Op.31
Mussorgsky "The Great Gate of Kiev" from Pictures at an Exhibition

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Re: Are these pieces doable?
Reply #1 on: September 18, 2012, 04:20:47 PM
I get a stomache ache just looking at that list.  As my teacher used to say.. "Oh Lord! Those pieces will put you in the hospital!"

Honestly, I haven't played all of those pieces.  They are all extremely difficult.  The Rach Bb Major prelude is a nightmare.

Hungarian Rhapsody #2 is very difficult same goes for the Chopin Ballades (but they are not as hard as the Friska section of the Rhapsody).

The Mussgorsky is not crazy hard, but it's super long.  But it's hard.. don't get me wrong.

One could probably play all of those pieces badly... it's a whole other thing to play them well.  That could take you your whole life honestly.

Honestly, of the pieces I've played from that list, I didn't play a single one of them before I was 20 years old.  They weren't even on my radar... except for the Rhapsody.. everyone wants to play that piece.

Good luck to you with these pieces.

P.S. I think that Chopin's Hades Prelude belongs on that list as well! :)

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Offline lostinidlewonder

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Re: Are these pieces doable?
Reply #2 on: September 18, 2012, 04:34:22 PM
Well.... I could write a page about each one but I'm not getting paid and I'm not in a charitable mood.

If you can't predominantly sight read though the pieces at tempo or various slower tempos then move on. Be more interested in pieces that are at your level, you will know when you can tackle any on your list because you will find you can actually read them somewhat fluently. If you face these bar by bar this is ridiculous.
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Offline scherzo123

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Re: Are these pieces doable?
Reply #3 on: September 18, 2012, 05:13:34 PM
-Looks at asuhayda's signature-

Prokofiev Toccata Op.11...damn that's...hard...and it's also going to be on my list!  :P
Bach Prelude and Fugue BWV848
Beethoven Piano Sonata Op.13
Chopin Etude Op.10 No.4
Chopin Scherzo Op.31
Mussorgsky "The Great Gate of Kiev" from Pictures at an Exhibition

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Re: Are these pieces doable?
Reply #4 on: September 18, 2012, 06:02:31 PM
-Looks at asuhayda's signature-

Prokofiev Toccata Op.11...damn that's...hard...and it's also going to be on my list!  :P

haha.. ya, apparently some colleagues of mine have told me that it's not as hard as it sounds.  But I will let you know how it goes.  So far so good.  I've been playing a ton of Bach lately, so everything seems easy by comparison. :)
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Re: Are these pieces doable?
Reply #5 on: September 18, 2012, 06:29:37 PM
  I've been playing a ton of Bach lately, so everything seems easy by comparison. :)
Glenn Gould Status.  ;D
Bach Prelude and Fugue BWV848
Beethoven Piano Sonata Op.13
Chopin Etude Op.10 No.4
Chopin Scherzo Op.31
Mussorgsky "The Great Gate of Kiev" from Pictures at an Exhibition

Offline j_menz

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Re: Are these pieces doable?
Reply #6 on: September 18, 2012, 11:45:51 PM
They have all been done, mostly many times. Therefore, they are all doable.  ::)
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Offline 49410enrique

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Re: Are these pieces doable?
Reply #7 on: September 18, 2012, 11:47:03 PM
... they are all doable.  ::)
lol that sounds so pervy

Offline rachmaninoff_forever

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Re: Are these pieces doable?
Reply #8 on: September 18, 2012, 11:49:30 PM
So...are these pieces doable?




Of course they are!  They have been played before right?

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*reads through comments*

God damnit J Menz...

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Offline j_menz

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Re: Are these pieces doable?
Reply #9 on: September 19, 2012, 12:02:33 AM
Of course they are!  They have been played before right?

EDIT:

*reads through comments*

God damnit J Menz...



 ;D Hahahahahahahahahahaha  ;D

lol that sounds so pervy

 ::) Only if your like 8.  :P
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Re: Are these pieces doable?
Reply #10 on: September 19, 2012, 12:04:38 AM
They have all been done, mostly many times. Therefore, they are all doable.  ::)

I meant doable for me.  -.-
Bach Prelude and Fugue BWV848
Beethoven Piano Sonata Op.13
Chopin Etude Op.10 No.4
Chopin Scherzo Op.31
Mussorgsky "The Great Gate of Kiev" from Pictures at an Exhibition

Offline chopin2015

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Re: Are these pieces doable?
Reply #11 on: September 19, 2012, 12:16:29 AM
lol that sounds so pervy

Haha I was gonna say....
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Offline j_menz

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Re: Are these pieces doable?
Reply #12 on: September 19, 2012, 01:15:32 AM
I meant doable for me.  -.-

Yes, if you keep your nose clean, stay out of harms way and practice hard and well.
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Offline nanabush

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Re: Are these pieces doable?
Reply #13 on: September 19, 2012, 04:41:22 AM
They're definitely doable...I'm doing Beethoven Op 57, Liszt 10th etude, and the Rach Bb major prelude this year (among others)... I don't think doing the ENTIRE list consecutively is realistic.

I'm assuming the list (I keep writing Liszt, and having to correct it haha) is based off of impressions that these pieces sound hard or look hard on the paper.  Don't play pieces for that reason!!! I was like this in high school, and missed out on simply beautiful music to play!

Instead of Feux d'Artifice, try out Voiles or Canope or Cathedrale Engloutie.  Maybe go for Feux d'Artifice if you've already played some Debussy preludes, but there's no reason to jump to that one right away.

As I said earlier, these pieces are totally doable!  But you need some balance.  Along with the three I said I'm learning, I'm doing some pretty tame pieces in combination (some slower Rach preludes, Brahms, etc).

Don't bother with Islamey if you've put the Chopin G minor Ballade in the same question of "is it doable".  If you are unsure of the Ballade, the Islamey will haunt your dreams.
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Offline scherzo123

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Re: Are these pieces doable?
Reply #14 on: September 19, 2012, 07:58:56 PM
I'm assuming the list (I keep writing Liszt, and having to correct it haha) is based off of impressions that these pieces sound hard or look hard on the paper.  Don't play pieces for that reason!!! I was like this in high school, and missed out on simply beautiful music to play!
It's actually not...I just love their beautiful melodies.
Bach Prelude and Fugue BWV848
Beethoven Piano Sonata Op.13
Chopin Etude Op.10 No.4
Chopin Scherzo Op.31
Mussorgsky "The Great Gate of Kiev" from Pictures at an Exhibition

Offline danhuyle

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Re: Are these pieces doable?
Reply #15 on: September 20, 2012, 06:48:15 AM
Go to a piano teacher and with a wave of their magic wand, you can play them all.  ;D
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Re: Are these pieces doable?
Reply #16 on: September 20, 2012, 06:07:52 PM
Does anybody know which one is harder, Chopin's Barcarolle Op 60 in F# Major or his Nocturne Op 48 1 in C Minor?

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Re: Are these pieces doable?
Reply #17 on: September 20, 2012, 11:03:30 PM
Does anybody know which one is harder, Chopin's Barcarolle Op 60 in F# Major or his Nocturne Op 48 1 in C Minor?

Lots of people know. Unfortunately, they do not agree in what they know.
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Re: Are these pieces doable?
Reply #18 on: September 20, 2012, 11:57:29 PM
stay out of harms way

You mean don't take on skateboarding and shatter your hands?
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Re: Are these pieces doable?
Reply #19 on: September 21, 2012, 12:14:55 AM
You mean don't take on skateboarding and shatter your hands?

Inter alia, yes.
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