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Offline wonzo

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Chopin Op. 10 Difficulty Rating
on: September 20, 2012, 08:55:04 PM
How would you rank Chopin's op. 10 nos. 1-12 from least to most difficult?
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Re: Chopin Op. 10 Difficulty Rating
Reply #1 on: September 20, 2012, 09:14:20 PM
Most difficult: 10/1 or 10/2

Least difficult: 10/6

Someone fill in the rest.

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Re: Chopin Op. 10 Difficulty Rating
Reply #2 on: September 20, 2012, 09:19:58 PM
i tend to use my own personalized 'system' for these types of threads. here goes.

No 1
Legume

No 2
Nucleic Acid


No 3
underpants


No 4
bacon


No 5
ambu bag


No 6
yarn


No 7
dog butt face


No. 8
Anchor


No. 9
Anchor


No 10
enchilada


No 11
Sea cucumber


No 12
anatomy chart



now this might seem randomn but hear me out....i could have given a numerical value from 1-10  with 1 being less difficult and 10 being most difficult, and guess what, it would be just as useful to you. it would be completely subjective relative to my background, opinion, training, natural talent or lack there of, familiarity with the work, disliking or liking it/them, etc.

just sayin.  

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Re: Chopin Op. 10 Difficulty Rating
Reply #3 on: September 20, 2012, 10:48:09 PM
that was the greatest reply ever. Of all time.

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Re: Chopin Op. 10 Difficulty Rating
Reply #4 on: September 20, 2012, 11:08:32 PM
that was the greatest reply ever. Of all time.

Except that No 3 is clearly Bacon and 4 is underpants. How enrique could think it's the other way around defies all logic.

Just sayin...

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Re: Chopin Op. 10 Difficulty Rating
Reply #5 on: September 21, 2012, 12:55:26 AM
I just thought of biting into a sea cucumber (No. 11)

Is there something wrong with me?

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Re: Chopin Op. 10 Difficulty Rating
Reply #6 on: September 21, 2012, 01:05:29 AM
I just thought of biting into a sea cucumber (No. 11)

Is there something wrong with me?

There probably will be if you do.
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Re: Chopin Op. 10 Difficulty Rating
Reply #7 on: September 21, 2012, 01:12:29 AM
There probably will be if you do.
indeed. it'd be best to braise it first.

https://www.food.com/recipe/braised-sea-cucumbers-with-chinese-vegetables-449111

i love this show. i had completely forgotten about the sea cucumber battle!
btw this one is sooo much better than the american version, the US/domestic one is too tame!

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Re: Chopin Op. 10 Difficulty Rating
Reply #8 on: September 21, 2012, 01:20:51 AM
i love this show. i had completely forgotten about the sea cucumber battle!

I play it in my kitchen at home.  ;D

Just so I can wear the outfits, of course.
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Re: Chopin Op. 10 Difficulty Rating
Reply #9 on: September 21, 2012, 02:42:05 AM
So this forum is full of 12-year-olds. Cool..
"Extreme complication is contrary to art."

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Re: Chopin Op. 10 Difficulty Rating
Reply #10 on: September 21, 2012, 03:41:14 AM
i tend to use my own personalized 'system' for these types of threads. here goes.

No 1
Legume

No 2
Nucleic Acid


No 3
underpants


No 4
bacon


No 5
ambu bag


No 6
yarn


No 7
dog butt face


No. 8
Anchor


No. 9
Anchor


No 10
enchilada


No 11
Sea cucumber


No 12
anatomy chart



now this might seem randomn but hear me out....i could have given a numerical value from 1-10  with 1 being less difficult and 10 being most difficult, and guess what, it would be just as useful to you. it would be completely subjective relative to my background, opinion, training, natural talent or lack there of, familiarity with the work, disliking or liking it/them, etc.

just sayin.  

Does that mean vegetarians do not play no 4? Just kiddin'.
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Re: Chopin Op. 10 Difficulty Rating
Reply #11 on: September 21, 2012, 08:10:07 AM
no.1
no.2
no.4
no.7
no.8
no.12
no.10
no.5
no.11
no.9
no.6
no.3

The chopin etudes are not 'difficult' technically, just difficult to bind together as a set.
For real etudes that actually test the performer, try Ligeti.

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Re: Chopin Op. 10 Difficulty Rating
Reply #12 on: September 25, 2012, 09:05:31 PM
We're not being 12. We're amused at your ignorance. You can't just give difficulty ratings like that. It's just too subjective.

Some etudes are obviously more difficult than others, but when it's close, you can't tell which is more difficult.

For instance, I disagree with perprocrastinate in that no. 6 is the easiest no question. I personally think it could be 5 6 or 3. Someone might disagree that one of those is in the bottom 3. It's all subjective

as for technicalman's list, he may think that but I think
2 is more difficult than 1
7 is less difficult than 8 but not by much
12 should be lower on the list
5 should be lower on the list
Now the thing is, neither of us is wrong. It all depends on each pianist and their experiences with Chopin, his etudes, and the piano.
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Offline outin

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Re: Chopin Op. 10 Difficulty Rating
Reply #13 on: September 25, 2012, 09:13:37 PM


The chopin etudes are not 'difficult' technically, just difficult to bind together as a set.


Oh, some publishers seem to have done this pretty well though ;D

I guess "not difficult" is very subjective indeed...

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Re: Chopin Op. 10 Difficulty Rating
Reply #14 on: September 26, 2012, 04:58:37 PM
no.1
no.2
no.4
no.7
no.8
no.12
no.10
no.5
no.11
no.9
no.6
no.3

The chopin etudes are not 'difficult' technically, just difficult to bind together as a set.
For real etudes that actually test the performer, try Ligeti.

You can NOT be serious. You are going to honestly look me in the eye and say that Chopin's etudes are NOT difficult? Get out of here

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Re: Chopin Op. 10 Difficulty Rating
Reply #15 on: September 26, 2012, 07:41:56 PM
The Chopin etudes aren't extremely difficult, but they do present difficulties. Let's leave it at that.
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