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Offline j_menz

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Erwin Schulhoff - In Futurum
on: October 05, 2012, 06:35:48 AM
It's from his Funf Pittoresken.

Anybody?? I really want to see this!!! :-*
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Re: Erwin Schulhoff - In Futurum
Reply #2 on: October 05, 2012, 06:55:44 AM
Thanks, but that's only an excerpt. I need the whole thing.
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Re: Erwin Schulhoff - In Futurum
Reply #3 on: October 05, 2012, 07:10:13 AM
Thanks, but that's only an excerpt. I need the whole thing.
My bad...   why? is there some actual sound surrounding that part. I must say though, that particular display of notation did strike me as being a potential way to get someone to make better use of sound image..

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Re: Erwin Schulhoff - In Futurum
Reply #4 on: October 05, 2012, 10:24:15 PM
My bad...   why? is there some actual sound surrounding that part. I must say though, that particular display of notation did strike me as being a potential way to get someone to make better use of sound image..

The In Futurum is silent (predating Cage's effort by some thirty years, and much more elegantly notated it would appear). The other Pittoresken do in fact contain sounds.
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Re: Erwin Schulhoff - In Futurum
Reply #5 on: October 05, 2012, 10:42:33 PM
i better not get in trouble for this....

PS on the topic of this cat, i sorta  collect jazz etudes, i am missing a page from one of them. if anyone has a complete set and you're not too keen on posting it here can you pm me? it's been bugging the hell out of me for a long time! and it's actually for the etude i liked best ( no 4 "tango" ) ! >:(

audio samples  (but you can buy the whole things)
https://www.classicalarchives.com/work/371235.html#tvf=tracks&tv=music

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Re: Erwin Schulhoff - In Futurum
Reply #6 on: October 05, 2012, 10:54:04 PM
i better not get in trouble for this....

PS on the topic of this cat, i sorta  collect jazz etudes, i am missing a page from one of them. if anyone has a complete set and you're not too keen on posting it here can you pm me? it's been bugging the hell out of me for a long time! and it's actually for the etude i liked best ( no 4 "tango" ) ! >:(

Thanks enrique, you're a genius.  :D

Sorry, can't help with the etude. Only one I can find has that page missing too (assuming it's the last page).
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Re: Erwin Schulhoff - In Futurum
Reply #7 on: October 05, 2012, 11:05:17 PM
Thanks enrique, you're a genius.  :D

Sorry, can't help with the etude. Only one I can find has that page missing too (assuming it's the last page).
it's not a huge deal as i don't have time to learn it right now but i just wanted to follow along w audio. i will probably just end up getting the universal edition sometime later on
https://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/Etudes-De-Jazz-5-Piano-Solo/5530387?d=sem_ggl_Product_Extensions&origin=Product_Extensions&mkwid&keyword=&gclid=CL3Xu5b-6rICFQmmPAodARUAfg

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Re: Erwin Schulhoff - In Futurum
Reply #8 on: March 13, 2013, 04:35:27 PM
Hi all. I have recently stumbled across a few of Schulhoff's piano works scores - all complete. They were in my possession for a long time, but the book got misplaced somehow. They include Funf Pittoresken (including In Futurum), Partita, Cinque Etudes De Jazz, Esquisses De Jazz, Hot Music, and Suite Dansante En Jazz. If anyone is interested, please contact me at acappellaman01@gmail.com.

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Re: Erwin Schulhoff - In Futurum
Reply #9 on: March 13, 2013, 05:48:47 PM
https://homepage1.nifty.com/iberia/score_gallery_schulhoff.htm
love it!!!
I'm probably going out of my mind, but it actually  sort of makes sense to me.  Much more than cage.
That G.P. Kills me!  I wonder if you're supposed to play the sleepy head notes at the end...

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Re: Erwin Schulhoff - In Futurum
Reply #10 on: March 14, 2013, 05:35:47 AM
love it!!!
I'm probably going out of my mind, but it actually  sort of makes sense to me.  Much more than cage.
That G.P. Kills me!  I wonder if you're supposed to play the sleepy head notes at the end...

You might enjoy seeing it live then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c5lRRaW4Jw

Love the wrong note.  ;D
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Re: Erwin Schulhoff - In Futurum
Reply #11 on: March 14, 2013, 01:11:36 PM
Was that choreography written into the piece by the composer?  Or was it ad lib?  And was that c supposed to be played?  I heard like a background droning of a low d or something.
Hysterical.

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Re: Erwin Schulhoff - In Futurum
Reply #12 on: March 14, 2013, 10:52:23 PM
Was that choreography written into the piece by the composer?  Or was it ad lib?  And was that c supposed to be played?  I heard like a background droning of a low d or something.
Hysterical.

The choreography is an interpretation of various exclamation marks that are in the score. The C is a wrong niote that lines up with a question mark in the score.  Not sure what the background noise is.  It is a great performance, though. I suspect Schulhoff would have been thrilled.
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