Solo piano Pieces similar to Chopin's op.2 variations?

[gn622]

Hi everyone, can anyone recommends Solo piano variations that is similar to that chopin work?

I exceptionally love the "Mazurka Like" variation in that piece, so i would love it if your recommended pieces would contain similar passages.

Much appreciated, and please excuse my faulty English   

[quantum]

Op.2 can be played solo piano.    I believe the score is on IMSLP.  It has been recorded as a solo as well. 

[deighve]

Try Rachmaninov's Chopin Fantasy. It's beautiful and gives a nice feel to the fingers and hands.

[gn622]

I couldn't find the score of a solo op.2, can anyone help? 

[j_menz]

If you like the mazurka like variation, why not move on to some of Chopin's actual mazurkas?

[gn622]

because i like the mazurka style when its unexpected and feels the  "strange" part of the piece, i do not want entire pieces in that way

and i could be mistaken calling it mazurka like, its 00:30 in this video ,

  though i do not like the way she play that part.

[quantum]

Turns out Pianostreet does have the Mikuli edition.  You do need to be a gold member to get it.

There is an "arrangement" on IMSLP, however it appears to be missing one of the variations.  It also appears to have cut out the orchestra part in places. 

If you can get a hold of a Paderewski 2 piano 4 hands edition, it would be easy adapt it for solo piano. 

[gn622]

I'm specifically looking for the sheet music lisitsa uses in this  performance (

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 but i couldn't find it anywhere 

Is it possible that she simply ignored the orchestral part from the original score?

[quantum]

If you wanted to play what Lisitsa played in that vid, it wouldn't be too hard to make the modifications.  She does make a strong case that omitting selected orchestral interludes provides more vivid contrast between the variations.  Additionally, playing the piece as a piano solo does remove the element of timbre variety an orchestral interlude would provide. 

The Julia Rive-King arrangement on IMSLP does omit the orchestral interludes. 

Lisitsa's video does closely resemble Mikuli edition, with a few minor alterations. 

[gn622]

do you know where i can find the Mikuli edition for free?

[gn622]

I found this version that includes the orchestra part

https://ia600506.us.archive.org/5/items/Cantorion_sheet_music_collection_3/ed635e47845d9195333b9ae0addfb873.pdf#track_/download/2097/ed635e47845d9195333b9ae0addfb873/Variations%20on%20%2526quot%3BLa%20ci%20darem%20la%20mano%2526quot%3B%20Piano%20Solo%20-%20Piano.pdf


if i  simply omit orchestral parts that lisitsa ignored do you think it would be the same?

[49410enrique]

I found this version that includes the orchestra part

https://ia600506.us.archive.org/5/items/Cantorion_sheet_music_collection_3/ed635e47845d9195333b9ae0addfb873.pdf#track_/download/2097/ed635e47845d9195333b9ae0addfb873/Variations%20on%20%2526quot%3BLa%20ci%20darem%20la%20mano%2526quot%3B%20Piano%20Solo%20-%20Piano.pdf


if i  simply omit orchestral parts that lisitsa ignored do you think it would be the same?

Just a quick question. You are being given lots of great feedback and advice and direction here including several great choices and options on some fine music. But why the insistence and push back that it must be exact same music played in that video? Is there a reason in particular that you are trying to imitate that video? It seems sort of odd I was wondering why you just don't set out to discover what pretty music you can make from the several scores suggested to you already. I wish you luck but I was just curious about the constant push that it must be the exact same as that performance. I didn't think our goals should be to copy ...

[gn622]

Just a quick question. You are being given lots of great feedback and advice and direction here including several great choices and options on some fine music. But why the insistence and push back that it must be exact same music played in that video? Is there a reason in particular that you are trying to imitate that video? It seems sort of odd I was wondering why you just don't set out to discover what pretty music you can make from the several scores suggested to you already. I wish you luck but I was just curious about the constant push that it must be the exact same as that performance. I didn't think our goals should be to copy ...

I simply was never a fan of transcribed music, but i read that chopin himself wrote a solo op.2 and that is what im trying to find, so im simply trying to find the closest thing

[49410enrique]

I simply was never a fan of transcribed music, but i read that chopin himself wrote a solo op.2 and that is what im trying to find, so im simply trying to find the closest thing

Cool. That makes sense. I'm the other way I love transcriptions and feel many times they are more effective than their ensemble or non piano solo source material. If you want to see if a chopin transcription exists a Complete catalogue listing of his entire compositional output should show that. He's been extensively studied. Such a list I imagine would be easy to find out in the interwebs
 

[quantum]

Chopin was known for modifying his compositions, even after an official publication was put out.  More than that, he published with multiple publishing houses simultaneously.  There could have been two or three "official" publications released at the same time, each with their own peculiarities.  This is true for many of his works.  If you are looking for a singular authoritative copy, you would be hard pressed to find one.  IMO, this does well to serve the music, as we point away from the urtext mafia mentality of the score as a central component of the piece, to actually listening and thinking about the music. 

The Paderewski edition contains thorough research and valuable information regarding source documents such as manuscripts, student copies, and first editions.  If you are interested in this stuff, be sure to check the extensive notes at the back of these volumes. 

If you want some sort of "official" word on the street, check out the National Edition of Chopin Works published by PWM.  It is also known as the Jan Ekier edition.  This is the current scholarly edition of Chopin's music. 

As Pianostreet already has the Mikuli edition, this would be a good place to obtain it.   

[gn622]

Thanks everyone for the great help  really appreciated!

[gn622]

One last question, ive currently officially started learning this piece but i just want to know how much of a challenge its going to be given that the hardest piece i play is chopin second scherzo, after months of practicing the scherzo pose no technical issues to me.

[quantum]

IMO it is up there in difficulty with the Allegro de Concert Op.46. 

If you have a passion for this piece, don't let difficulty stop you.  Just go learn it.  You may wish to skim the entire piece for sections that are difficult to you.  Learn these first.