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Offline ranniks

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I had no idea.....
on: October 19, 2012, 08:08:22 PM
My teacher: First I want to get you to play the right notes.
Me: Sure teacher-sensei-figure, I'll work my darnest!

4 weeks later: Finishing up the Minuet in G Major.

NOW there are a friggin butload of Minuet version on the internet, but I wondered and wondered; why the hell doesn't my version sound like them? I searched and searched and finally stumbled upon this video:



I observed and saw that he went an octave higher, I lookd baffled and tried it; IT SOUNDED EXACTLY THE SAME!

Apparently mf means an octave higher! The Minuet sounds much more nice now!

>.<

Unberievable.

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Re: I had no idea.....
Reply #1 on: October 19, 2012, 08:31:13 PM


Apparently mf means an octave higher! The Minuet sounds much more nice now!



Not sure what you are talking about, but mf means mezzo forte (moderately loud).

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Re: I had no idea.....
Reply #2 on: October 19, 2012, 08:39:39 PM
Not sure what you are talking about, but mf means mezzo forte (moderately loud).

Well, yahoo said it was an octave higher, but I guess that's not correct. However, I am playing it better right now because of going an octave higher.

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Re: I had no idea.....
Reply #3 on: October 19, 2012, 09:09:36 PM
Sorry, I must be really tired, but octave higher from what? This piece is written in the staff as it is played.

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Re: I had no idea.....
Reply #4 on: October 19, 2012, 09:23:17 PM
Sorry, I must be really tired, but octave higher from what? This piece is written in the staff as it is played.

Well....His right hand moves one octave to the right at around 20 seconds. That's what I meant.

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Re: I had no idea.....
Reply #5 on: October 19, 2012, 09:28:59 PM
Well....His right hand moves one octave to the right at around 20 seconds. That's what I meant.

Isn't that exactly how it is written? I am too tired to remember and I don't have the book, borrowed it to someone...

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Re: I had no idea.....
Reply #6 on: October 19, 2012, 10:34:38 PM
That is indeed how it is written.  The first section goes D-G-A-B-C-D... and the section at which his hand moves to the right (the second half of the minuet) goes B-G-A-B.  And 'mf' is a dynamic indication, as has already been covered.

The sign for playing something an octave above what is written would be 8va, and it would be placed over the staff, with an indication of how long to play the music, usually with dotted lines extending over the staff until you return to the normal register.

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Re: I had no idea.....
Reply #7 on: October 20, 2012, 03:23:42 PM
That is indeed how it is written.  The first section goes D-G-A-B-C-D... and the section at which his hand moves to the right (the second half of the minuet) goes B-G-A-B.  And 'mf' is a dynamic indication, as has already been covered.

The sign for playing something an octave above what is written would be 8va, and it would be placed over the staff, with an indication of how long to play the music, usually with dotted lines extending over the staff until you return to the normal register.

I wish I could show you my sheet, but at the moment my phone cable is gone and I can't upload pictures because of my router....

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Re: I had no idea.....
Reply #8 on: October 20, 2012, 11:45:39 PM
Beginner music is often arranged (edited) to be easier to play.  Things like trills and other ornaments are left out, there may be fewer notes, etc.  Probably you have a version that was written to be easier so that octave jump isn't there.  Why not ask your teacher about it?  Mf means "mezzo forte", or "mid-loud" and indicates how loudly or softly to play.  Sometimes teachers don't ask for these dynamics in the beginning, because they're waiting for other skills to kick in.
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