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Offline chopin2015

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Goals for next year
on: October 28, 2012, 04:17:37 AM
Hi there!  So I have been thinking about what I will start working on next year, because the end of the year is the perfect time to put something off until next year. Not sure yet because I want to have fun too, but probably want to consider listing pieces to composer, a variety of pieces to each composer as well as variety of composers should be a goal I fancy. Well. I get really excited about flashy big difficult pieces, but the smaller works do just as well. So tell me what you are really anxious to work on? I really want a set of etudes, but have not decided which one because I am working on being good enough to make the effort less painful for myself.

Thanks!
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Offline evitaevita

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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #1 on: October 28, 2012, 09:27:24 AM
Hello!

How difficult pieces would you like to learn? Could you mention a piece of such difficulty?  :)
Also, do you want to play an entire set of etudes? This can be really difficult! But, it depends on which etudes you will choose. For example, starting learning Liszt's Transcendental Etudes would be much more difficult than Moszkowski's Etudes de Virtuosité.

BTW, Although I've never played an entire set of etudes, here are some interesting ones:

- Of course, Chopin Etudes Op.10 & Op.25
- Moszkowski - 2 Concert Studies Op.48
https://imslp.org/wiki/2_Concert_Etudes,_Op.48_(Moszkowski,_Moritz)
- Moszkowsky - 15 Etudes de Virtuosité, Op.72
https://imslp.org/wiki/15_Etudes_de_Virtuosit%C3%A9,_Op.72_(Moszkowski,_Moritz)
- Liszt - Études d'exécution transcendante d'après Paganini, S.140
https://imslp.org/wiki/%C3%89tudes_d%27ex%C3%A9cution_transcendante_d%27apr%C3%A8s_Paganini,_S.140_(Liszt,_Franz)
- Liszt - Grandes études de Paganini, S.141
https://imslp.org/wiki/Grandes_%C3%A9tudes_de_Paganini,_S.141_(Liszt,_Franz)
- Liszt - Grandes études, S.137
https://imslp.org/wiki/Grandes_%C3%A9tudes,_S.137_(Liszt,_Franz)
- Liszt - 3 Études de concert, S.144
https://imslp.org/wiki/3_%C3%89tudes_de_concert,_S.144_(Liszt,_Franz)
- Liszt - Études d'exécution transcendante, S.139
https://imslp.org/wiki/%C3%89tudes_d%27ex%C3%A9cution_transcendante,_S.139_(Liszt,_Franz)
- Stravinsky - 4 Etudes, Op.7
https://imslp.org/wiki/4_Etudes,_Op.7_(Stravinsky,_Igor)
- Scriabin - 12 Etudes, Op.8
https://imslp.org/wiki/12_Etudes,_Op.8_(Scriabin,_Aleksandr)
- Lyapunov - 12 Études d'exécution transcendante, Op.11
https://imslp.org/wiki/12_%C3%89tudes_d%27ex%C3%A9cution_transcendante,_Op.11_(Lyapunov,_Sergey)
- Philipp - 6 Concert Studies
https://imslp.org/wiki/6_Concert_Studies_(Philipp,_Isidor)
- Busoni - 6 Études, Op.16
https://imslp.org/wiki/6_%C3%89tudes,_Op.16,_BV_203_(Busoni,_Ferruccio)
- Alkan - 12 Etudes in All the Major Keys, Op.35
https://imslp.org/wiki/12_Etudes_in_All_the_Major_Keys,_Op.35_(Alkan,_Charles-Valentin)
- Alkan - 12 Etudes in All the Minor Keys, Op.39
https://imslp.org/wiki/12_Etudes_in_All_the_Minor_Keys,_Op.39_(Alkan,_Charles-Valentin)
- Brahms - 51 Exercises, WoO 6
https://imslp.org/wiki/51_Exercises,_WoO_6_(Brahms,_Johannes)

Well,... some of them are extremely difficult, but I'm not sure about what you want exactly, so I posted every idea that I came up with!
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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #2 on: October 28, 2012, 05:51:13 PM
Indeed, I am thinking big difficult pieces(for me) a whole movement of or the whole concerto(I will start with one movement) A difficult sonata Romantic period and later. A set of etudes but this will probably span out over the course of the whole year and maybe even longer. Overall, I would like to get more organized on what I learn, I get so infatuated with pieces, sometimes randomly, and not in it's due time.

What about you?
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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #3 on: October 28, 2012, 10:50:34 PM
Indeed, I am thinking big difficult pieces(for me) a whole movement of or the whole concerto(I will start with one movement) A difficult sonata Romantic period and later. A set of etudes but this will probably span out over the course of the whole year and maybe even longer. Overall, I would like to get more organized on what I learn, I get so infatuated with pieces, sometimes randomly, and not in it's due time.

What about you?

I'm not thinking big pieces these days. Once I get the Christmas performance done and over with I have two or three different pieces to work on. One is Scarlatti's L23, I think I will start with that in Jan..
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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #4 on: October 29, 2012, 12:21:41 AM
I'm going to compose a sonata for Valentina Lisitsa.

That should win her heart!!! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #5 on: October 29, 2012, 12:44:20 AM
That is more than just Rad! Go rach_forevs! I transcribed a jazz solo to win this guy who I was I have been in love with for a year's heart but he doesn't talk to me still. :( Oh well at least I have the jazz solo and you will have a sonata!
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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #6 on: October 29, 2012, 01:00:24 AM
People have a never ending obsession with the difficult stuff...

In November I'm going to be eating sonatinas, like sultanas...   I have about 100 to work on (so far) and just need more paper and printer ink to begin the adventure.

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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #7 on: October 29, 2012, 01:27:24 AM
I'm going to compose a sonata for Valentina Lisitsa.

Perhaps you should make it a double sonata, so she and her husband can play it together.
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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #8 on: October 29, 2012, 01:28:53 AM
People have a never ending obsession with the difficult stuff...

In November I'm going to be eating sonatinas, like sultanas...   I have about 100 to work on (so far) and just need more paper and printer ink to begin the adventure.

If everyone did that about once every six months, they'd be much better pianists.
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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #9 on: October 29, 2012, 01:42:52 AM
If everyone did that about once every six months, they'd be much better pianists.

 :( I know...  I know... ...i know...    but no one will listen ::)

..ofcourse, some of them I've played before..  but most of it will be things I haven't really touched. Its actually kind of embarrassing some of the things I haven't yet touched..  ..(that should go in the pervert thread)

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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #10 on: October 29, 2012, 01:44:40 AM
Perhaps you should make it a double sonata, so she and her husband can play it together.

It's okay, I'll win her heart over her husbands!   8)
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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #11 on: October 29, 2012, 01:55:34 AM
People have a never ending obsession with the difficult stuff...

In November I'm going to be eating sonatinas, like sultanas...   I have about 100 to work on (so far) and just need more paper and printer ink to begin the adventure.

What kind of sonatas? Which ones? :D Don't forget november is my birthday.
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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #12 on: October 29, 2012, 02:02:41 AM
Don't forget november is my birthday.

The WHOLE month of November?
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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #13 on: October 29, 2012, 02:18:24 AM
What kind of sonatas? Which ones? :D Don't forget november is my birthday.

Anything that is easy enough to learn to a rough fluent/musical standard within 2-3 runs through. So like a rough grade 3-6 probably.

Clementi
Kuhlau
Diabelli
Beethoven
Scarlatti
Etc..

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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #14 on: October 29, 2012, 02:28:57 AM
Oh, I gotcha! Scarlatti sonatas are amazing. I just love Baroque music, it reminds me of the 3 musketeers movies. Very well,  carry on!
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Reply #15 on: October 29, 2012, 03:01:30 AM
Oh, I gotcha! Scarlatti sonatas are amazing. I just love Baroque music, it reminds me of the 3 musketeers movies. Very well,  carry on!

Indeed, I rather like the enormity of them as a set too.. it never ends, though I only have the first 140 or so printed and bound so far..

..between that (and the other composers sonata/sonatina collections) and the blanks I have in mikrokosmos I have about 450 non-traumatising works to go through in the near future... as a starter for the next few months..  something I've been meaning to do in as complete a fashion as this for a long time.  :P   

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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #16 on: October 29, 2012, 03:08:29 AM
Hahah, non-traumatizing, eh? I do appreciate that you like to have fun! Are you a good sight reader? I prefer memorizing. You know, you should get a harpsichord.
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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #17 on: October 29, 2012, 03:22:11 AM
Hahah, non-traumatizing, eh? I do appreciate that you like to have fun! Are you a good sight reader? I prefer memorizing. You know, you should get a harpsichord.

I'm a reasonable reader, part of the point is to improve in that regard.

non-traumatizing is obviously an exaggeration, I like the challenge of harder works (I'm working on big pieces too of course - I'm severely prone to overshooting my ability with repertoire choice for myself)..  its good sometimes to enjoy being able to play something straight away though rather than having to graciously accept that more complex skills take time to develop. I've always played easier stuff as well.. but never on the scale I'm planning to as of pretty much now...

And really, I kind of have a responsibility to do it because of teaching, I should have massive exposure to repertoire at all levels..  at least a lot more than I currently have.

EDIT:

EVERYONE should get a harpsichord.

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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #18 on: October 29, 2012, 03:24:36 AM
EVERYONE should get a harpsichord.

Lucky I still have my digital piano with harpsichord and organ settings, since I couldn't sell it.

Which means I can have more fun with Bach! :D

EDIT: I just realized that the above sentence sounded a little weird. Don't post that in the 'Pervert!' thread.  ::)

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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #19 on: October 29, 2012, 03:31:10 AM
It is good to have results that you can gauge a little easier, like the more accessible works that you know you should complete in a specific quote of time. Sometimes it takes longer to complete a difficult work and I start freaking out because I want to have more difficult works completed already, but then I go and whip out the old Chopin valse book. I won't stop mentioning how awesome they are! I'm just rambling again, sorry!
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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #20 on: October 29, 2012, 03:33:01 AM
Build your own harpsichord, people! I've been meaning to get around to this, but will have to wait till winter break.
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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #21 on: October 29, 2012, 04:09:17 AM
Build your own harpsichord, people! I've been meaning to get around to this, but will have to wait till winter break.

yeh..  https://www.hubharp.com/  ...only I don't have the space for one.

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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #22 on: October 29, 2012, 04:48:09 AM


EVERYONE should get a harpsichord.

I cannot stand the sound of them really  :(

But the Scarlatti sonatas are just as wonderful played on the piano  :)

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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #23 on: October 29, 2012, 08:42:41 PM
I think as one piano prof stated, "a harpsichord concert sounds like two skeletons (expletive) on a tin roof."

But my goals are to play some more Prokofiev. He's a cool composer and it's too bad I haven't played much of him.
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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #24 on: October 29, 2012, 09:00:39 PM
EVERYONE should get a harpsichord.

And their own harpsichordist:

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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #25 on: October 30, 2012, 05:28:03 PM
big transcription year nxt year. Begin work on two long term projects
-gershwin rhapsody in blue solo transciption (may complete in 2014)
-grainger-transcription (paraphrased) on the third mvmnt of the rachmaninoff piano concerto no 2

Shorter projects two moszkowski transcriptions from a concerto and a sonata

Concert transcription of de camptown races
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Various piano collections pieces from final fantasy nier and epic of zektbach. Note the goals are to start them finishing in 2013 will depend on school and work circumstances and possible move so I may need a new piano teacher depending where I end up if I do move in 2013

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Re: Goals for next year
Reply #26 on: November 07, 2012, 01:21:07 PM
I'll try and get as far as possible on the way to mastering all Chopin etudes, while also re-learning his Ballades no. 1 and 3 (haven't played them in 8 years and haven't played piano in 7 of those years either) and Scherzo no. 2, and Schubert's Sonatas D894 and D 960, and probably a whole myriad of minatures and easier works.

Maintaining and improving my current repertoire (Chopin's Barcarolle, 3 Ecosaisses, the Fantaisie-Impromptu, and a couple of Mazurkas, plus Beethoven Sonata no. 8, Schubert's op. 90 no.4 Impromptu and a piano transcription of Saint-Saëns' 'Le Cygne') is in the planning as well.

On the side, even though I am an amateur pianist, I'll take on my first pupil, a friend of mine who finishes university in February and then will finally have time to start practicing again seriously. She already knows the basics of piano playing and has had lessons for 3 years when she was in secondary school, so I am mainly there to inspire her, help her choose new stuff to work on, and give her feedback. Anyhow, it's goin to be an interesting and hopefully fruitful 2013 :)
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