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Offline sasuke_10

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B - "si" or "si flat"
on: November 15, 2012, 07:39:06 PM
I'm wondering if B means "si flat" or "si". I've studied "si" as H and "si flat" as B but everyone says that B is "si". Which is the right one?

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Re: B - "si" or "si flat"
Reply #1 on: November 15, 2012, 07:52:56 PM
To my knowledge, accidentals don't affect the naming system.  So the note association ignores the scale that it's in (if it's not a fixed system).  If it's a fixed system (so it starts on C no matter what the scale), I believe it's B no matter what. Although, it's entirely possible it's a language by language system.
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Re: B - "si" or "si flat"
Reply #2 on: November 15, 2012, 08:05:31 PM
There is a chart half way down the page that gives the equivalencies for different regions/languages
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Note
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Re: B - "si" or "si flat"
Reply #3 on: November 15, 2012, 09:09:54 PM
I'm wondering if B means "si flat" or "si". I've studied "si" as H and "si flat" as B but everyone says that B is "si". Which is the right one?

It is a bit confusing if you are used to the German system where H is used. The English speaking people refer to H as B and they refer to B as B flat.

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Re: B - "si" or "si flat"
Reply #4 on: November 15, 2012, 09:17:50 PM
It is a bit confusing if you are used to the German system where H is used. The English speaking people refer to H as B and they refer to B as B flat.

Ah, that makes much more sense to me now.
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Re: B - "si" or "si flat"
Reply #5 on: May 29, 2022, 01:11:10 PM
To my knowledge, accidentals don't affect the naming system.  So the note association ignores the scale that it's in (if it's not a fixed system).  If it's a fixed system (so it starts on C no matter what the scale), I believe it's B no matter what. Although, it's entirely possible it's a language by language system.
Unless it's accidental I guess. Just kidding! By the way, I just saw Si flat and wanted to know more (I'm not studying music right now and when I did a long time ago it was like the basics). When I saw the mentioning of H, I got confused as I know there were only 7 notes and they should end with G (H is in chess as there are 8 squares). When I first saw this I was thinking doh, Ray me, fa, so... OK not that too then. Heard Si was related to European phonetics.
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