benevolent, passive forum trolls

[Derek]

Does anyone believe benevolent, passive forum trolls exist? With pianostreet's colorful history, I often wonder if some of the trolls of old have grown up (sort of) but still get a kick out of being multiple personalities on this site. I know some people don't really care but I must have a bit of my dad's tendency to want to figure things out like Sherlock Holmes. Only, it is all too easy to be paranoid online. Though, I suspect said paranoia may be communicating a grain of truth to me. It'd just be fascinating to find out some day if I was ever right. I dare not publicly guess, I'm sure I'd only make a fool of myself. It's just, there are several names here that, well, "feel" like the same person when I read their posts.

Anyone else feel the same way?

[outin]

Does anyone believe benevolent, passive forum trolls exist? With pianostreet's colorful history, I often wonder if some of the trolls of old have grown up (sort of) but still get a kick out of being multiple personalities on this site. I know some people don't really care but I must have a bit of my dad's tendency to want to figure things out like Sherlock Holmes. Only, it is all too easy to be paranoid online. Though, I suspect said paranoia may be communicating a grain of truth to me. It'd just be fascinating to find out some day if I was ever right. I dare not publicly guess, I'm sure I'd only make a fool of myself. It's just, there are several names here that, well, "feel" like the same person when I read their posts.

Anyone else feel the same way?

Rach-4 obviously does 

I really do not care. Anything goes in the internet, so I take things as they seem and don't worry if I am wrong. I might not be who I pretend to be at all...I might actually be a 15 year old boy from Kansas...

[nyiregyhazi]

Does anyone believe benevolent, passive forum trolls exist? With pianostreet's colorful history, I often wonder if some of the trolls of old have grown up (sort of) but still get a kick out of being multiple personalities on this site. I know some people don't really care but I must have a bit of my dad's tendency to want to figure things out like Sherlock Holmes. Only, it is all too easy to be paranoid online. Though, I suspect said paranoia may be communicating a grain of truth to me. It'd just be fascinating to find out some day if I was ever right. I dare not publicly guess, I'm sure I'd only make a fool of myself. It's just, there are several names here that, well, "feel" like the same person when I read their posts.

Anyone else feel the same way?

Hmpiano is keyboard class, but there's nothing passive about his continued trolling.

[hmpiano]

troll, n. anyone who shows up nyer...'s ignorance.

[pianoman53]

Sometimes it happens that 2 posters agree on something completely weird... But mostly, as N mentioned, it's not very passive.. Though, it would be fun if someone came clean with something completely unexpected.

Probably quite many members who first got banned, and then created a new account though, but that's not really the same thing, is it?

[rachmaninoff_forever]

but still get a kick out of being multiple personalities on this site.

J MENZ AND AJSPIANO ARE THE SAME PERSON.

[perprocrastinate]

J MENZ AND AJSPIANO ARE THE SAME PERSON.

I was going to say that, but decided to let you have the honor.




Not that I agree with you, though; it's just fun imitating you.

[j_menz]

J MENZ AND AJSPIANO ARE THE SAME PERSON.

[j_menz]

Not that I agree with you, though; it's just fun imitating you.

Don't indulge him. 

[rachmaninoff_forever]

I was going to say that, but decided to let you have the honor.




Not that I agree with you, though; it's just fun imitating you.

Thanks!   

[Derek]

Nuts, I was hoping some of my suspects were going to show up in this thread. Or maybe they already did. 

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Nuts, I was hoping some of my suspects were going to show up in this thread.

Who?

[fftransform]

To me, j_menz, perprocrastinate, nyiregyhazi and ajspiano are all the same person.  Rachmaninoff_forever is like the 12 year old version of the above-mentioned.

Then Derek and Indutrial are the same person to me, but I don't know if Indutrial bothers to post his garbage here any more.  Hopefully not; he is a twat.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

To me, j_menz, perprocrastinate, nyiregyhazi and ajspiano are all the same person.  Rachmaninoff_forever is like the 12 year old version of the above.

I was suspecting perpocrastinate, but I was he fell off my radar recently.

I don't know how you managed to come up with nyiregyhazi.

[fftransform]

I was suspecting perpocrastinate, but I was he fell off my radar recently.

I don't know how you managed to come up with nyiregyhazi.

I don't claim that any of them are actually the same person.  They just all blend together in my mind; I see very little difference between any of them.  You are like their dog or something, following them around.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

You are like their dog or something, following them around.

Hey I follow nobody around!!!

 

[j_menz]

They just all blend together in my mind; I see very little difference between any of them. 

Members of the category "people who think you're a pompous dill" perchance?

Can't speak for the others, but I'm happy to be so categorised.  Wondered where you'd gotten to. Missed you. Or at least noticed your absence.

[davidjosepha]

J MENZ AND AJSPIANO ARE THE SAME PERSON.

Exactly. This explains why j_menz hasn't posted anything to the audition room. Why would ajspiano want to spend hours working on a piece and then have his lesser (oops, sorry ) alter-ego get credit? Also, I have no idea what j_menz is working on. I've never heard him say a single piece he has worked up to a high level, except that one Alkan thing in the Performance forum the other day. Suspicious.

You are like their dog or something, following them around.

quoted for truth

or at least to make rach_4 mad

[fftransform]

Members of the category "people who think you're a pompous dill" perchance?

It might be the case, although the way I personally categorize you guys (or maybe it is Davidjosepha instead of perprocrastinate; I don't remember.  Possibly all five) is as the undeservedly-self-assured, always-feels-the-need-to-state-their-opinion kind of people.  I don't come here enough to keep track, so I might be miscategorizing David or Perp . . . but not you.

[j_menz]

his lesser (oops, sorry ) alter-ego

   SLAP!

I have no idea what j_menz is working on.

You do. It's the Alkan thing.

Suspicious.

Very.

[j_menz]

undeservedly-self-assured, always-feels-the-need-to-state-their-opinion kind of people. 

 = "people who disgree with me from time to time and don't mind saying so"

Still, FWIW, I think you're kinda fun.

[davidjosepha]

I think you're kinda fun.

Stopppp, you're gonna upset him

[ajspiano]

..i'm not at all selfassured. And I state opinions mostly to leave them open to criticism and to allow me to clarify them through actively forming and expressing them. (aids learning)

No arguement that I offer more opinion than the average forum member though.. And usually defend it as being accurate, despite it potentially being inaccurate and my grammar and spelling almost always being inaccurate... I long for someone to come in and point out flaws in my opinions and demonstrate why I'm undeservedly self-assured..  Perhaps then I'll gain some more knowledge and actually be more sure.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Stopppp, you're gonna upset him

It's supposed to be stooooooop, not stopppp'.

Because you can't say pppppp, but you can say oooooooooo, so stoooooop sounds better.

[davidjosepha]

It's supposed to be stooooooop, not stopppp'.

Because you can't say pppppp, but you can say oooooooooo, so stoooooop sounds better.

Then you're just saying "stoop" but really stretching out the "oo". There's no good way of stretching out the o in "stop" without making it look like it's supposed to be an ooh sound

[ajspiano]

..I'm also certainly a benevolent troll from time to time.

[chopin2015]

..i'm not at all selfassured. And I state opinions mostly to leave them open to criticism and to allow me to clarify them through actively forming and expressing them. (aids learning)

No arguement that I offer more opinion than the average forum member though.. And usually defend it as being accurate, despite it potentially being inaccurate and my grammar and spelling almost always being inaccurate... I long for someone to come in and point out flaws in my opinions and demonstrate why I'm undeservedly self-assured..  Perhaps then I'll gain some more knowledge and actually be more sure.

hahahah, that was complicated. Everybody, I am sorry I have not posted anything to the audition forum. I get nervous when I record myself and the recording never justifies how I feel about the pieces, or the pieces I work on are just too difficult, and it may be anywhere for 1 to unknown number of months before I get over any anxiety and record something I like from the current set of memorized pieces. (also because I will either have to do it in Russia or wait till I come home )

[j_menz]

..I'm also certainly a benevolent troll from time to time.

If not always benevolent to trolls, if the rather grisly fate of a certain poor creature I sent to hunt you down is anything to go by.

[ajspiano]

If not always benevolent to trolls, if the rather grisly fate of a certain poor creature I sent to hunt you down is anything to go by.

Perhaps you should've sent a benevelant troll instead of a malicious one.

[j_menz]

Perhaps you should've sent a benevelant troll instead of a malicious one.

A benevelant troll would, I think, be a well dressed one (bene [good] + velare [to cover]); I thought he looked quite spiffy!

Or did you mean benevolent  (bene [good] + volare [to will or intend]) which I had helpfully spelt correctly in the passage you quoted, and is spelt correctly in the thread title?

[chopin2015]

A benevelant troll would, I think, be a well dressed one (bene [good] + velare [to cover]); I thought he looked quite spiffy!

Or did you mean benevolent  (bene [good] + volare [to will or intend]) which I had helpfully spelt correctly in the passage you quoted, and is spelt correctly in the thread title?

the definition of troll on my mac is :

troll 1 |trōl|
noun
a mythical, cave-dwelling being depicted in folklore as either a giant or a dwarf, typically having a very ugly appearance

[ajspiano]

A benevelant troll would, I think, be a well dressed one (bene [good] + velare [to cover]); I thought he looked quite spiffy!

Or did you mean benevolent  (bene [good] + volare [to will or intend]) which I had helpfully spelt correctly in the passage you quoted, and is spelt correctly in the thread title?

Spelt correctly by myself earlier too I believe..  I did also mention my spelling and grammar are usually poor.

It would however perhaps be appropriate to assume that I meant benevolent given that despite your etymological lesson 'benevelent' isn't a real word.

Either way, thank you for allowing me to become more sure regarding spelling and proving my incompetence in some regard.

[lostinidlewonder]

Pianostreet has some weird trolls compared to other sites but at least its not too numerous (though the trolls like to post a lot). Two weird ones I notice is the Nitpicking/Exactness Troll and Piano Science Troll. Whether they realize their actions is being a Troll or not is not important, some of them are just unsocial creatures who can't express themselves constructively.

The internet for years has been a place for people to pretend to be someone else. Many find entertainment in having an alter ego, doing it on social/informative websites however is annoying imo. You can see it on online gaming all the time, that's an appropriate place to pretend I guess, but where people try to be serious, being surrounded by fictional characters is silliness more often than not.

I have noticed (and seen proof) that there are also some who like to act as other people and respond to themselves/others with multiple accounts, it's happened over the years. It's sad, but some need to create the illusion that others are taking them seriously (or in some cases not, just to create arguments that spam the forum). I also have seen proof that certain members here in pianostreet have been banned from other piano/music forum for their useless ranting and arguing.

I sometimes like interacting with a troll, I guess that's benevolent trolling?

Nyz's response on the bottom doesn't deserve a bump of this thread. He thinks it's us with the problem all the time, he only knows how to discuss by pulling other peoples ideas down and substituting his own reality

[j_menz]

It would however perhaps be appropriate to assume that I meant benevolent given that despite your etymological lesson 'benevelent' isn't a real word.

I was generously allowing for wit rather than error.

[nyiregyhazi]

Pianostreet has some weird trolls compared to other sites but at least its not too numerous (though the trolls like to post a lot). Two weird ones I notice is the Nitpicking/Exactness Troll and Piano Science Troll. Whether they realize their actions is being a Troll or not is not important, some of them are just unsocial creatures who can't express themselves constructively.

I refer you to your entirely off-topic vitriol in response to my on-topic posts in this thread.

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=48861.msg532229#msg532229

The poster who started that thread has been banned under another account, by the way.

[Derek]

I often wonder where this troll gets the time to post so much. Makes me wonder if they're still living with their parents or on welfare of some type. In one way or another they clearly have issues.

Not sure why I said "benevolent" other than that the troll has failed to anger me in quite a while, maybe I'm just mellowing out. Or maybe I defeated it and it hasn't reared its ugly head in a while. Or perhaps the troll is in my mind and I defeated something entirely in my mind. No idea.

[hmpiano]

p2u_ by the way, is nyer... logging in on his mobile.  Moscow, my arse.

[nyiregyhazi]

p2u_ by the way, is nyer... logging in on his mobile.  Moscow, my arse.

believe whatever you like. I have better things to do than create fake accounts. Anyway, P2u and myself disagree on many things and he has also suggested many things that were unfamiliar to me but which have proved extremely useful. He also posts on Alan Fraser's forum.

[hmpiano]

He also posts on Alan Fraser's forum.

In that case perhaps you'd both do us the favour of staying over there?  Presumably they can better stomach that obnoxious verbal diarrhea you have the cheek to call discussion.

[nyiregyhazi]

In that case perhaps you'd both do us the favour of staying over there?  Presumably they can better stomach that obnoxious verbal diarrhea you have the cheek to call discussion.

Sure, fit everyone who disagrees with your narrow-minded views into a single convenient category. The fact that you lump p2u in only serves to illustrate how you have a problem with anyone who does not share your blinkered outlook. Is it so remarkable to believe that more than one person could possibly smell bullshit?

[outin]

[fftransform]

It goes like this:

Richard Black ~ ajspiano
ajspiano ~ j_menz
j_menz ~ perprocrastinate
perprocrastinate ~ outin
outin ~ nyiregyhazi
nyiregyhazi ~ Indutrial
Indutrial ~ Derek
Derek ~ Marik
Marik ~ Richard Black

As for me, I only ever have one account at a time.  Well no, there was Meowmix which existed simultaneously with s_bussotti.

[ahinton]

It goes like this:

Richard Black ~ ajspiano
ajspiano ~ j_menz
j_menz ~ perprocrastinate
perprocrastinate ~ outin
outin ~ nyiregyhazi
nyiregyhazi ~ Indutrial
Indutrial ~ Derek
Derek ~ Marik
Marik ~ Richard Black

As for me, I only ever have one account at a time.  Well no, there was Meowmix which existed simultaneously with s_bussotti.

I'm pretty sure that a fair proportion of the above doesn't actually go like that, actually, particularly where the beginning and ending is concerned. Never mind; at least I'm correctly left out of it...

Best,

Alistair

[Derek]

As of the above post, ahinton's post count is now



Not that that means anything, I just couldn't resist because I love that meme.

Speaking for myself, I only ever had one alter ego here and I think I made him post once. His name was "ole" and he commented favorably on one of the earliest improv posts I made here. *edit* correction, apparently I made 14 posts with that name.