The Eternal Debate: Bach vs Rach

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At least this thread is a good attempt to make eternal of this debate (that I had really never even encountered before)   

[49410enrique]

this is great! it also leads to me thinking we should also continue the eternal debate of which is the better orange.

the fruit, or the color.

i believe the answer will lead to enlightened discussion of the truely important question to end all questions.

which is the better hot sauce? dresses or rocks.

[p2u_]

which is the better hot sauce? dresses or rocks.

Any tasty hot sauce that dresses my food well rocks... Or was I supposed to read nouns?

Paul

[49410enrique]

Any tasty hot sauce that dresses my food well rocks... Or was I supposed to read nouns?

Paul

very well done indeed!

[andreslr6]

this is great! it also leads to me thinking we should also continue the eternal debate of which is the better orange.

the fruit, or the color.

You are so close minded! the fruit is obviously way better than the color because you can eat it!

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You are so close minded! the fruit is obviously way better than the color because you can eat it!

Hmm...I have this deep rooted disgust for colour orange. It literally makes me nauseous in large quantities. I can handle an orange though. But on the other hand, I do not like the taste of an orange...

But in the end, I think without the orange colour there would be no orange (the fruit). Or is it the other way round? This question has lead to an eternal debate in my mind...

[andreslr6]

Hmm...I have this deep rooted disgust for colour orange. It literally makes me nauseous in large quantities. I can handle an orange though. But on the other hand, I do not like the taste of an orange...

But in the end, I think without the orange colour there would be no orange (the fruit). Or is it the other way round? This question has lead to an eternal debate in my mind...

I'm telling you, you too are being close minded, you simply can't understand the greatness of the orange fruit. The fruit is better, the color sucks..

*on a side note, the color orange is actually my 2nd favorite color all be it for sarcasm!

[p2u_]

You are so close minded! the fruit is obviously way better than the color because you can eat it!

[Opens mind] Please keep in mind that some Dutchmen (me included) may disagree. The Dutch Royal Family belongs to the House of Orange-Nassau. Also, Dutch soccer is associated with the color orange, so this in itself has MUCH more significance for mankind than your favorite fruit... EDIT: even Vincent van Gogh would agree.[/Closes mind]

Paul

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^I especially hate sunflowers...

[brendan765]

Bach lacks music and he sucks

[andreslr6]

Bach lacks music and he sucks

Cool story bro.

[p2u_]

Bach lacks music and he sucks

Paul

[49410enrique]

Bach lacks music and he sucks

[lateromantic]

Thirdly, wanna know why Bach was more influential than Rachmaninoff?  Because he came two hundred years before Rachmaninoff!  And like you said, music wasn't as developed as it was when Rachmaninoff was around, so it was WAY easier for Bach to make a large impact on music than Rachmaninoff.  Using influence to discern which composer is better is ridiculous. 

I think there's a lot of truth to that.  Interestingly, J. S. Bach was neglected in the years immediately following his death (when he was sometimes referred to as "the lesser Bach," particularly in comparison to his sons), and then underwent a revival in the nineteenth century, so his influence was rather delayed.  In a somewhat similar way, Rachmaninoff (as a composer) was received very negatively by most critics during his lifetime and in the years immediately after, then underwent a revival in the last couple of decades of the twentieth century.  Perhaps he too will have a great delayed influence on the course of music? 

I did my dissertation on Rachmaninoff, so naturally I'm partial to the composer.  I would be loath to rank him versus Bach, though.  Rachmaninoff himself, who had a modest personality, would no doubt have eschewed such comparisons. 

By the way, this is my first ever post to this forum.  Is there some accepted way of introducing oneself?

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By the way, this is my first ever post to this forum.  Is there some accepted way of introducing oneself?

Welcome!

There is an introduction thread:
https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=122.0

[slobone]

Well, Bach is the greatest composer who ever lived. I don't think anybody's making that claim for Rachmaninoff. Yes, he was a great composer, but I don't think he would even be 2nd on my list.

Now if you're just talking about keyboard music, that's different. I'd still put Bach #1, but Rach would definitely move up several notches.