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Offline brendan765

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Original Composition
on: January 08, 2013, 01:05:51 AM
This is some samples of a piece i'm composing for Piano. I can't play it presentably well yet because it's not complete, and I need to make some fingerings and finishing touches.

I photo copied them but it's still legible, they will be notated with Finale later on...There seems to be alot of talented pianists on here, so play it and let me know what you think.
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #1 on: January 08, 2013, 01:09:12 AM
Haha, that got mixed up, this was it...
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #2 on: January 08, 2013, 01:11:06 AM
How about a composing program such as Sibelius or Finale? These will allow you to input notes faster, and also there will be no trouble with making it legible. Also, many nuances are available to make repeating sections and similar actions very easy, and also you don't have to rewrite key signatures and such things on every line. And you don't have to buy staff paper, and...the list goes on and on. Definitely investigate one of those programs and consider using it. As for the scores, I currently can't really read them without a lot of effort. But if the finished product is a piece I enjoy, I will consider playing it and posting the recording on this forum. Good luck. :)

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Re: Original Composition
Reply #3 on: January 08, 2013, 01:13:49 AM
How about a composing program such as Sibelius or Finale? These will allow you to input notes faster, and also there will be no trouble with making it legible. Also, many nuances are available to make repeating sections and similar actions very easy, and also you don't have to rewrite key signatures and such things on every line. And you don't have to buy staff paper, and...the list goes on and on. Definitely investigate one of those programs and consider using it. As for the scores, I currently can't really read them without a lot of effort. But if the finished product is a piece I enjoy, I will consider playing it and posting the recording on this forum. Good luck. :)


If you read what I said, maybe you would understand, I don't have it, I ordered a gateway laptop and my music theory teachers giving me finale
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #4 on: January 08, 2013, 02:37:59 AM
It looks interesting.  I really do suggest you get some software to make it legible, though. Not many pianists are used to reading manuscripts these days, and your handwriting leaves a lot to be desired (so did many composer's btw).  That will be a big drawback in getting people to play it.
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #5 on: January 08, 2013, 02:57:10 AM
It looks interesting.  I really do suggest you get some software to make it legible, though. Not many pianists are used to reading manuscripts these days, and your handwriting leaves a lot to be desired (so did many composer's btw).  That will be a big drawback in getting people to play it.


New laptop's in the mail rightnow from ebay, my friends giving me finale.

I don't think many people will attempt to play it, until they hear it. It could be my best solo piano piece I will ever write.
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #6 on: January 08, 2013, 03:34:39 AM

New laptop's in the mail rightnow from ebay, my friends giving me finale.

Good.

I don't think many people will attempt to play it, until they hear it.

It may surprise you, but some people can hear it off the score.
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #7 on: January 08, 2013, 03:37:41 AM
So you don't use finale?

I see, you're old school.
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #8 on: January 08, 2013, 03:38:37 AM
I actualy really wanna hear your music now lol.
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #9 on: January 08, 2013, 03:44:46 AM
Good.

It may surprise you, but some people can hear it off the score.


Yes, audiation...That's something I can't do, it's entriguing. I feel like it would be cool to learn, it could enable me to basically improvise a sonata or piano concert piece. I can hear music in my head and play it on the piano and write music....I canot pickup random music sheets and hear it though...

My relative pitch is terrible, I've never really tried to advance it. any recomendations to learning how to do this?
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #10 on: January 08, 2013, 03:57:03 AM
My relative pitch is terrible, I've never really tried to advance it. any recomendations to learning how to do this?

I think most people do it by looking at an interval, attempting to sing it, check on the piano, sing again.  Repeat until you can do it, then change the interval and repeat. It takes time and practice, and I don't think there's really much of a shortcut.
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #11 on: January 08, 2013, 04:06:19 AM
I think most people do it by looking at an interval, attempting to sing it, check on the piano, sing again.  Repeat until you can do it, then change the interval and repeat. It takes time and practice, and I don't think there's really much of a shortcut.

I've always thought singing was akward, I don't like singing or hearing it...that is probably uncommon of a pianist?
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #12 on: January 08, 2013, 04:07:21 AM
I can't take reading that score seriously, it is written very messily. I like how the opening posts had a conversation going on by oneself. I also enjoyed seeing the copy paste response of 89th key to make it look like he can type very fast. Nice touch.
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #13 on: January 08, 2013, 04:12:49 AM
I can't take reading that score seriously, it is written very messily. I like how the opening posts had a conversation going on by oneself. I also enjoyed seeing the copy paste response of 89th key to make it look like he can type very fast. Nice touch.

You're just ignorant honestly, you probably can't read music that's why. And if you really are Adre Reiu 'little bity concert pianist that's broke' you're still an ignorant bastard.
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #14 on: January 08, 2013, 04:17:26 AM
You're just ignorant honestly, you probably can't read music that's why. And if you really are Adre Reiu 'little bity concert pianist that's broke' you're still an ignorant bastard.
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #15 on: January 08, 2013, 04:22:37 AM
Lo0o0o0o0ol no need to Q_Q

Musicless human, you're a fake.
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #16 on: January 08, 2013, 04:24:32 AM
What's going on here  :'(
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #17 on: January 08, 2013, 04:28:49 AM
Yeah Ive been faking it here for almost 10 years. lol
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #18 on: January 08, 2013, 04:37:36 AM
Yeah Ive been faking it here for almost 10 years. lol

You're still, either really in disbelief that im a pianist and not some fool want to be piano player. or you're a shitty human. I give you 2 options, I've been in your place before. I know what you mean...in disbilief about someone or something because it sounds totally bullshit. For me it always turned out that I was in disbilief because the person was a chronic lier. That is something that makes everyone pissed generally, liers.
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #19 on: January 08, 2013, 04:40:27 AM
I really dont care who you are or what you do.

I do care if you actually post information that is useful because I'd like to read it. However you do not post anything useful at all except for entertainment purposes, like looking at a train wreck.


There are a few members who have been here for 10 years and more, we know the pattern of posts that occur here on pianostreet since we have been observing it for so long. When you create personalities and clash them onto the website it is a big "tell" for us long time members. It is like people colluding in a poker game, experienced players will pick up on it. Many of us old members can pick up on fakes almost instantly because it goes against everything we have experienced in the past which relates to normal and echos many hoaxes which we have already dealt with over the years.
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #20 on: January 08, 2013, 04:45:54 AM
I really dont care who you are or what you do.

I do care if you actually post information that is useful because I'd like to read it. However you do not post anything useful at all except for entertainment purposes, like looking at a train wreck.


Well in a few weeks here I will post computerized sheet music and play it for you, 'not for you', but for myself and the music. You can listen and try to play it yourself. But I doubt you will be able to handle it musically and technically combined, dont embarase yourself, I am the composer.
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #21 on: January 08, 2013, 05:00:55 AM
...dont embarase yourself....
Ok I'll try not to... whatever that is.
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #22 on: January 08, 2013, 05:17:40 AM
Ok I'll try not to... whatever that is.
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Stop being an antagonist, we dont need it on this forum, this is about piano. It's all good it's just the internet, besides we're a whole 10,000 miles away. Pointless to argue. Outback steakhouse, ever heard? crocidile hunter?
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #23 on: January 08, 2013, 07:22:44 AM
Lol, I´m actually curious about what´s going to happen here. It´s intriguing

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Re: Original Composition
Reply #24 on: January 08, 2013, 07:46:15 AM
Lol, I´m actually curious about what´s going to happen here. It´s intriguing

The board is being terrorized by people who:

1) have a sick need for shameless self-promotion
but at the same time
2) wish to stay anonymous

This can only mean that eventually you will be fobbed off with nothing but empty hype. Surely not a very intriguing prospect I would say...

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Re: Original Composition
Reply #25 on: January 08, 2013, 07:54:24 AM
The board is being terrorized by people who:

1) have a sick need for shameless self-promotion
but at the same time
2) wish to stay anonymous

This can only mean that eventually you will be fobbed off with nothing but empty hype. Surely not a very intriguing prospect I would say...

Paul

Yeah, most probably, I remember when I first read his posts thinking he was the same guy as the89thkey, then I noticed their conversation up here..

But who knows, maybe one day we´ll actually find a new Mozart here... remember he claims to write better music than Bach...

but after taking a look at the scores he posted, I doubt it, greatly

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Re: Original Composition
Reply #26 on: January 08, 2013, 01:04:24 PM
Yeah, most probably, I remember when I first read his posts thinking he was the same guy as the89thkey, then I noticed their conversation up here..

But who knows, maybe one day we´ll actually find a new Mozart here... remember he claims to write better music than Bach...

but after taking a look at the scores he posted, I doubt it, greatly

No not a new Mozart, Just me...you could relate it to composers from the romantic era such as Chopin, Liszt, Rachmaninoff, or Prokifiev.

      But it is not their music or very close at all, It's new, I have my own style and I think people who like music of the romantic era will like this...It's has a structure to it, it's not out there as much as atonal music nor is it strict as Bach. I hate playing the same thing twice in the same way, and rarely repeat phrases...If I must repeat a phrase in the same key it's usually different.

I am going to make variations on different composers works, and transpose lesser known significant works that I like for Orchestra, likewise Orchestra to Piano Solo...

Do transposers make good money??
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #27 on: January 08, 2013, 04:59:54 PM
Your manuscripts remind me of Beethovens ' I really don't know how anyone has ever deciphered them into the beautiful printed pages we have available to us now -

I agree that you should use software -I bought Sibelius recently -I am struggling with it so far -but I am sure it is my fault and not the programmes.
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #28 on: January 08, 2013, 08:30:41 PM
Your manuscripts remind me of Beethovens ' I really don't know how anyone has ever deciphered them into the beautiful printed pages we have available to us now -

I agree that you should use software -I bought Sibelius recently -I am struggling with it so far -but I am sure it is my fault and not the programmes.


Well this is really my first composition that i've decided to write out and really perfect it...Yeah that would be kind of hard. But I can read my own writing, but it's hard to read others writing sometimes. I'm always going to write them out first, it's way faster for me. But I will copy them on finale once finished...why's everyone think i'm lying or scamming?
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #29 on: January 08, 2013, 11:52:53 PM
Your manuscripts remind me of Beethovens ' I really don't know how anyone has ever deciphered them into the beautiful printed pages we have available to us now -

I agree that you should use software -I bought Sibelius recently -I am struggling with it so far -but I am sure it is my fault and not the programmes.


Lol Beethovens autographs are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY worse than his.

His aren't even that bad!
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #30 on: January 09, 2013, 12:49:01 AM
And people STILL think that brendan is the same person as me? If you read this forum and still think that, you're not a very intelligent person. Also, he is posting compositions. I have never written music and never will...I actually think you can't get much different than him and me in terms of...in terms of a lot of things.

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Re: Original Composition
Reply #31 on: January 09, 2013, 02:13:18 AM
And people STILL think that brendan is the same person as me? If you read this forum and still think that, you're not a very intelligent person. Also, he is posting compositions. I have never written music and never will...I actually think you can't get much different than him and me in terms of...in terms of a lot of things.
We all know the truth. But it is fun to watch the role playing going on, keep it up!

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Re: Original Composition
Reply #32 on: January 09, 2013, 02:25:09 AM
I am going to make variations on different composers works, and transpose lesser known significant works that I like for Orchestra, likewise Orchestra to Piano Solo...

Do transposers make good money??

FYI, that's called a transcription, not transposing.  Sometimes it is called arranging, too.

They can make good money in advertising, TV and the movies. It's rather a sell your soul to the devil deal, though.
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #33 on: January 09, 2013, 02:44:27 AM
FYI, that's called a transcription, not transposing.  Sometimes it is called arranging, too.

They can make good money in advertising, TV and the movies. It's rather a sell your soul to the devil deal, though.

I probably won't make money in the Piano world because I have strong beliefs about music and how I make myself a musician. And many of the ways I could make money in the music world are against my personal ideals.  I study the standards first, focus less on composing for now and then compose my own works for the rest of my life and enjoy music from the past and present (and perform); with out higher authority determining how I make money.

I don't care if I make a penny playing the piano. I am following through my business plans towards partnering with a electronics/media proficient business. Apple
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Re: Original Composition
Reply #34 on: January 09, 2013, 02:50:58 AM
Lol Beethovens autographs are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY worse than his.

His aren't even that bad!

Thankyou, somebody who knows, anybody see the destruction he did to 'Symphony Erocia' lol?!  It was for good reason though, I look up to him alot. Beethoven was somebody who would never give up what he believed, he was a genious for that reason. Also many composers get criticized, until their artistry is recognized.

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Reply #35 on: January 09, 2013, 02:54:04 AM
We all know the truth. But it is fun to watch the role playing going on, keep it up!

If you don't realize that it is soooo obvious you are the same person, then I am afraid it is YOU who is "not a very intelligent person".

Play a little joke on this poor man, I am the 89th KEY!!! (:  does that stir things up on the internet? we'll see ?
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Reply #36 on: January 09, 2013, 03:03:54 AM
...does that stir things up on the internet? we'll see ?
Your solitary aim on pianostreet is to stir things up, so I am sure you have already seen that.
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