Franz Liszt vs. Frederic Chopin

[the_prodigy]

Whats your opinion?

[Antnee]

Oh please, This thread is going to be useless. In what respect? They were both equally gifted and geniuses in their own way. Why compare the two? They were completely different and both deserve equal respect.

[bernhard]

Oh please, This thread is going to be useless. In what respect? They were both equally gifted and geniuses in their own way. Why compare the two? They were completely different and both deserve equal respect.

Besides there is already an old thread where all this has been discussed ad nauseum (and no conclusion reached or worthwhile information surfaced).

[the_prodigy]

sorry

i didnt know

[Antnee]

It's ok...  But if you want to witness the heat from the past debate, Go here.. (It's very entertaining!)

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3802.0.html

or here...

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,1817.0.html

There are probably more buried around here somewhere... 

-Tony-

[Daevren]

I think it is very obvious.

But I also think this discussion is useless.

[Nightscape]

Oh my.... I read through one of those posts and it was very entertaining.  Some people are so closed minded!

[DarkWind]

I think it is very obvious.

Really? Because I don't. Both were humongous influences to future music, and both made equally great music.

[Nightscape]

I think it is very obvious.

Really? Because I don't. Both were humongous influences to future music, and both made equally great music.

Uh oh.... is that the faint sound of an approaching army?

[BoliverAllmon]

not again. I remember this before. Both had there ups and downs. Both were great and both were geniuses. It all comes down to taste.

[Spatula]

So? I like Chopin more than Liszt...do I smell biasness?

Therefore this discussion is pointless.

[faulty_damper]

Oh why not contribute to the fury of ListChopin!

It's obvious Chopin was the better composer!

No, Frank was the pianist!

No, you are an idiot!  Freddy was much better!

Screw your pie hole shut, Liszt was much better!

 

 

[the_prodigy]

not you again spatula

Liszt is the greatest no doubt

thats why he he made the trancendental etudes at age 14

then soon after was cristened virtuoso

 

Boo yah

[the_prodigy]

correction age 24

[the_prodigy]

no i think he made Etudes de 12 exersises  when he was  14


yeah i just looked it up and it says that was his piano piece


                   the_prodigy

[Nightscape]

*edit* sorry.... I mean to post this on this thread, but accidently posted it on another I was reading.*


Its easy to say that some composers were better at composition than others....
like Bach being better than Telemann, Mozart better than Salieri (hehe... Amadeus), etc.  Although Chopin and Liszt were contemporaries, it is really very hard to judge them against each other.  For one thing, Chopin died in 1849 and Liszt in 1886, so obviously Liszt had more time to perfect his craft.  Chopin wrote really great music... keeping in mind he did this all under the age of 39.  Liszt by comparision, would have been very busy touring as a concert pianist from age 25 to 35 so.... by the time Liszt was 39 certainly Chopin's music was more developed, in a more mature style than Liszt.  But Liszt did not stay the same - his music drastically evolves as he ages.  After Chopin's death, Liszt begins to embark on some very, very big compositional projects.  He wrote ochestral standards like "Les Preludes" and his piano concertos.... and massive piano works like his Sonata, and the Annes de Pelerinage.  He also wrote large choral works.  Music was Liszt's life- he truly believed in the power of music and kept writing, improving, and experimenting up to his death.  It is sad that Chopin did not live beyond age 39, because he would surely have given us some great music - composers tend to write their best later in life.  Yet for such a short life, Chopin created music that far surpasses some of his longer lived predecessors.

In the end.... you cannot compare them fairly, just as you cannot compare Bach and Stravinsky fairly.  So instead of asking "Chopin or Liszt?" you should be saying "Chopin and Liszt!"
 
 

[the_prodigy]

thank you



very very good point


           the_prodigy




thx

[superstar]

there's no way we could compare the two of them ...
no we can't ...  Ferenc and Frederic were a way different , if ya know what i mean.
they both are geniuses ... and they both ROCK ! huh 
It's obvious , if u dont know what a music composition is , u cant find the difference, but i still believe , u can get thru the point

[bernhard]

Hey look at what in the cinemas now.

I guess this thread is the piano equivalent.