Yamaha Silent c3X vs Kawai RX3, Schimmel?

[hotcat]

Hooray--I'm finally able to purchase a grand piano for my front room

I was seriously considering a Yamaha C3X with Silent System until I received the quote: $******

  I plan to look at the Kawai RX-3 at another store.  If I don't get a Yamaha, though, I would need to have a Pianodisc silent system installed--an OK idea? (not the player system, just silent system).


Any thoughts would be appreciated!

[lhorwinkle]

$38,000 is not the selling price. It's the dealer's asking price. His wet dream. It's just a number, not a reality ... except for those foolish enough to pay the salesman's asking price.

What are you willing to offer? That is: What is your wet dream?  Have you made an offer?

Your own calculations gave $27,000 as the result. So offer that amount.

[outin]

Yes, just make on offer and see what they do.

Kawai has their own "silent" system, Anytime X. Just ask if it's available for that model.

Why would you need to shop with the local dealer? You might need to pay more because of the transport but I would assume that in US you can buy fromever you want

[49410enrique]

you won't be 'banned' from going outside your market to buy another piano, but be warned, if you have warranty issues you may find yourself ina  bind.

if you have  alocal dealer that sells brand x piano, but you go outside of the market and buy the same piano from another dealer, you then have say an issue with a warranty claim (unlikely but it can happen with any piano...any.). you then go to your local dealer for help with repair/claims,, there is no incentive for them to mess with it. you will probably have to go through the dealer that sold you the piano, and if it significantly far away, that's where you may run into problems.

not this is different than if you buy a piano then move, usually dealers will have good business ethics and help out however they can, it also helps build a relationship with a new potential client. but if you mess them over for no reason other than to 'save a few bucks' thats where it can get sticky. unless you have significatn reasons for not wanting to do business with the local retailer, id strongly consider having them compete for the busineess if it all comes down to price.  that is, have them bed against a written offer from the competing dealer, have them 'sweeten the deal'.

just something to consider. i have heard of folks having some real nightmares on getting stuff worked out onthe back end of the deal down the line when they skirt a local business just to save a few bucks then expect the busiiness they burned to bend over backwards and help them where there is an issue.

[keys60]

First of all, offer at least 35% off of the MSRP. Markup on new pianos can be 300% and they are not flying off the shelves in today's economy. Second of all, 11K for your trade in? That sounds way to generous from a dealer for a U. What it seems he is doing is enticing you to deal with a high trade in value and then sticking it to you with a really high sale price. He's basically getting your trade it for practically nothing. You set your terms and walk out. Be strong, young Jedi.

P.S.  You have good taste. 3 great pianos. I'm really into Schimmels but would be thrilled with any of the 3. Of course, the personal tastes lie within.

[hotcat]

OH, so helpful--thank you.

[49410enrique]

OH, so helpful--thank you.  Looks like road trip to Chicago next week to look at Schimmels as well as the Estonia 190. I probably won't look at Yamaha, Kawai or Boston while I'm there since they are all easily found here at home.  Salespeople all very friendly, helpful here.

be careful with that estonia, you might fall  in love, i know i did, now i think about it all time.....*sigh....

seriously, have fun, but yeah estonia's are special, love those things.

on the kawai deal, if you can, strongly suggest you experience a shigeru kawai if you can make it to a dealer over there, my favorite piano ever (though outside the 'budget' discussion here new, if you can find a babied used one-rare, people buy shigeru's and generally keep them forever!-that should be a strong contender!)

[hotcat]

Thank you to all who left comments to this thread a while back!

I bought a new Estonia 190.  I've had it for a few weeks now and it is a slice of heaven.

[hfmadopter]

Thank you to all who left comments to this thread a while back!

I bought a new Estonia 190.  I've had it for a few weeks now and it is a slice of heaven.

Congratulations !!