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Offline chopin2015

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Mephisto Valse no 1
on: January 19, 2013, 11:42:45 PM
So, I have a question! Are there different versions(longer and shorter one)? Because I just learnt the one from a dover book, but I found a midi file which has an extended middle section, I think. So, does anyone have an opinion about this? I can't remember if I have ever heard the longer version performed. Does anyone have the score? Thanks!!
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Re: Mephisto Valse no 1
Reply #1 on: January 20, 2013, 10:55:05 PM
There are six different editions on IMSLP, perhaps you should check those.

https://imslp.org/wiki/Mephisto_Waltz_No.1,_S.514_(Liszt,_Franz)

That said, there is an extended version, S514a, though I do not have a copy of it, and IMSLP appears to be unaware of it. The midi you have is most probably of that.

The dover one you have learnt is S.514 and is the most commonly played.
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Re: Mephisto Valse no 1
Reply #2 on: January 20, 2013, 11:00:54 PM
Thank you! I did not have the number for it, and now I will find it! Thanks a ton, you rock!
"Beethoven wrote in three flats a lot. That's because he moved twice."

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Re: Mephisto Valse no 1
Reply #3 on: February 16, 2013, 11:13:29 PM
may i aske how long you needed to play the whole?


thanks for a reply ..

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Re: Mephisto Valse no 1
Reply #4 on: February 17, 2013, 12:52:20 AM
2 or 3 months? Iiszt is pretty easy minus his etudes. Dont get me wrong, im still working on the musicality and the fast scales and what not.
"Beethoven wrote in three flats a lot. That's because he moved twice."

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Re: Mephisto Valse no 1
Reply #5 on: February 17, 2013, 01:43:45 AM
may i aske how long you needed to play the whole?


thanks for a reply ..

9.5 to 12 minutes, depending on taste.
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Re: Mephisto Valse no 1
Reply #6 on: February 17, 2013, 03:01:46 AM
Haha i do about 11 mins. Its not too bad. But its reeeeeally long. There are so many parts! If you have any questions on it, feel free! Id love to see if i can answer them.
"Beethoven wrote in three flats a lot. That's because he moved twice."

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Re: Mephisto Valse no 1
Reply #7 on: February 17, 2013, 09:43:59 AM
hi
thanks for ansers, my question was about the time of studing.

but 11 minutes is a good time for this. i think if you play too fast the music is not so brilliant.

i dont want to get on your nervs so i dont questionnair you ;) maybe later ...

thanks

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Re: Mephisto Valse no 1
Reply #8 on: February 17, 2013, 05:40:04 PM
I agree. But the scales should always be played fast.
"Beethoven wrote in three flats a lot. That's because he moved twice."
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