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Topic: Liszt - Complete Transcendental Etudes !? Oh Wait....  (Read 2495 times)

Offline koopakool

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I came across a Youtube channel that just flabbergasted me. I'm confused really, it really cracked me up. The guy posted ALL of Liszt's transcendental etudes, godowsky etudes and other really hard pieces (Liszt, Alkan). The twist is.... well I have no words, just listen to them. Here's one example Mazeppa (well not really Mazeppa but almost? lmao)



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Most probably be a joke, maybe he's completely retard I don't know really. He seems to have some good technical abilities, seems to know very well the etudes (in theory), put decent effort to go through the whole pieces and produce these recordings, what's happening here? It's like I'm listening to re-arrangements of the etudes by Pierre Boulez or something. Anyway very funny/intriguing IMO

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Re: Liszt - Complete Transcendental Etudes !? Oh Wait....
Reply #1 on: March 07, 2013, 02:30:40 AM
It sounds like sight reading through them for the first time at tempo or just as a reading exercise (given that you have not memorized them). That in itself is not a bad idea but if this is a product of much practice then it is a bit sad.
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Re: Liszt - Complete Transcendental Etudes !? Oh Wait....
Reply #2 on: March 07, 2013, 03:05:34 AM
It sounds like sight reading through them for the first time at tempo

That's highly improbable but if it's the case then he's a sight-reading genius, I mean all of these extremely difficult pieces? at that speed? Try to sight-read Alkan's "Le Preux" or Rach's "Little Red Riding Hood" just for fun. He hasn't got any sheets in front of him in most of his vids. Anyway even the slowest parts are completely off. I'd imagine if he has such good reading abilities he'd get some of it right? He hasn't posted anything serious, on that channel at least. I don't know what to think really  ;D

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Re: Liszt - Complete Transcendental Etudes !? Oh Wait....
Reply #3 on: March 07, 2013, 03:15:37 AM
That's highly improbable but if it's the case then he's a sight-reading genius, I mean all of these extremely difficult pieces? at that speed? Try to sight-read Alkan's "Le Preux" or Rach's "Little Red Riding Hood" just for fun. He hasn't got any sheets in front of him in most of his vids. Anyway even the slowest parts are completely off. I'd imagine if he has such good reading abilities he'd get some of it right? He hasn't posted anything serious, on that channel at least. I don't know what to think really  ;D
I couldn't bear to listen to these recordings to realize in slower parts he fudged them up too. If it is not sight reading then to see this in a positive light it shows the early stages of memory. He is working at quite an advanced memory level to be able to control such a large amount of music and maintain them at the preliminary stages of memory. If he is able to control such an amount of music and overall improve them simultaneously at an efficient level then he is an incredible musician.

However there is also a probability that this is as good as he can get, in that case the videos are ridiculous :)

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Re: Liszt - Complete Transcendental Etudes !? Oh Wait....
Reply #4 on: March 07, 2013, 03:19:41 AM
Hahahahhahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahhahhha!!!!!

There's a video of someone doing appassionata like that somewhere on YouTube as well.

Anyways, there are people who can sightread the transcendental ethers at full speed. 

I remember a pianist who's name I can't spell or pronounce was called to do a recording.

So they gave him some Liszt and they told him to play it.  So this is what happened...

People:  hey we need you to record this here's the score.

Pianist:  squinting eyes sight-reading it and flipping through pages.

People:  ready?

Panist:  yeah, just give me another five minutes and we're good to go. 

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Re: Liszt - Complete Transcendental Etudes !? Oh Wait....
Reply #5 on: March 07, 2013, 03:26:05 AM
However there is also a probability that this is as good as he can get

He does state on his page that he posts things once he has "learnt" them.
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Re: Liszt - Complete Transcendental Etudes !? Oh Wait....
Reply #6 on: March 07, 2013, 03:39:11 AM
He does state on his page that he posts things once he has "learnt" them.
If by learnt he means this is his final product and what he reckons is performance standard then he is obviously just being silly :) I reckon if he has only invested a small amount of time to get this result it is a pretty good start.

I'm thinking that if he indeed plans to maintain contact with all these pieces and develop them over his lifetime this could be an ok way to go about doing it so long he improves that is. Some people like to work with this broad perspective, study many pieces at once and improve many at once. Some don't like to study one piece at a time they feel they don't have the attention to give just one piece and work better being able to go between multiple.

But yeah...it is thinking rather positively that all this is what he aims to do. If he thinks that this is the final product and there is not much improvement then he is crazy of course!
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Re: Liszt - Complete Transcendental Etudes !? Oh Wait....
Reply #7 on: March 07, 2013, 11:49:58 AM
Hey - we've found SCP's youtube channel...

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Re: Liszt - Complete Transcendental Etudes !? Oh Wait....
Reply #8 on: March 07, 2013, 01:59:25 PM
I bet it's subliminal messaging. My brain hurts.
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