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Offline toby1

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Current reputation of South Australia?
on: April 27, 2013, 09:31:54 AM
What's south australia's reputation as a music tuition provider? Does the local university really have the international recognition they tout it as having? Or is SA considered a bit of a backwater?

Offline leandro1990

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Re: Current reputation of South Australia?
Reply #1 on: April 27, 2013, 01:23:43 PM
I am not so sure.
But when i think of studying in Australia I would think Queensland Conservatorium or Sydney Conservatorium.
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Offline birba

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Re: Current reputation of South Australia?
Reply #2 on: April 27, 2013, 04:47:46 PM
J-menz should answer this one.

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Re: Current reputation of South Australia?
Reply #3 on: April 27, 2013, 04:50:01 PM
Never heard of it, but I'm in the U.S. 

There was a music ed student from Australia on here years ago.  I wonder what happened to her.
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Re: Current reputation of South Australia?
Reply #4 on: April 28, 2013, 12:04:59 AM
Sydney Con seems to be the pick, Qld and WA a bit behind that and then pretty much anywhere else is a backwater. Though you should check out who's teaching, there may be individuals who are better than their institutions (and vice versa).
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Re: Current reputation of South Australia?
Reply #5 on: April 28, 2013, 01:42:08 AM
Main reason for asking is was considering where to go hunting for teachers if I manage to outgrow my current teacher. That might be tricky depending on how much time I can spend practicing and whatnot. But it does seem possible. Provided I can get my head around this frickn fugue I'm trying to learn at the moment, which is driving me nuts. It takes me a week to learn a new bar.

Anyways happy trails, I'll keep thinking about it.

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Re: Current reputation of South Australia?
Reply #6 on: April 28, 2013, 02:19:31 AM
Main reason for asking is was considering where to go hunting for teachers if I manage to outgrow my current teacher.

Then it's a good place to at least start.  If you're just looking for a good teacher (and not the prestige value of the institution) then they should have some available or be able to point you in the right direction.


Provided I can get my head around this frickn fugue I'm trying to learn at the moment, which is driving me nuts. It takes me a week to learn a new bar.

What fugue is that?  :o
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Re: Current reputation of South Australia?
Reply #7 on: April 28, 2013, 09:59:32 PM
Tash.  That's who I was thinking of.

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=149

I see it's been a while though...
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Re: Current reputation of South Australia?
Reply #8 on: April 28, 2013, 10:30:48 PM
I'm probably bias, but WAAPA has produced some EXCELLENT musicians on the jazz front. Guys that are at the high end of world standard, not Australian standard.

VCA here in melbourne has a bit of a reputation for being brutal. I know a couple of people who I consider to be top musicians who dropped out of there saying "it was destroying my soul"

classically speaking I think j_menz is on the money with sydney, one of the better classical students I grew up with elected to study there rather than stay home in perth despite the significantly higher costs/struggle of having to live out of home with no real income...

..not to say WA was bad, I went to an open lesson there when I was 16 and watched a first year student totally nail chopin 10/1 without any trouble in front of decent audience and the public judgment from her teacher.

..and after all that, I really don't know anything about south australia... and maybe that says something in itself? though really there's always more factors. There would undoubtedly be atleast one decent teacher there though

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Re: Current reputation of South Australia?
Reply #9 on: April 29, 2013, 02:06:43 PM
What fugue is that?  :o

t=145s

I was being dramatic, but it's taking me a very long time to learn this piece. I think it's partly the way I was approaching my practice was very inefficient. Plus the phrases are very long in this piece and it makes it difficult to find a point where I can stop and start again with a new section.

EDIT: It's much harder than it looks. It requires some odd fingerings and just getting my head around making the melody line sing out is requiring me to develop skills I didn't have 11 year back when I stopped playing piano. I've been playing for around a year now after the big break.



I'll come out and say it. I'd like to become a professional classical pianist. At the very least play as well as one. If nothing else then to properly test the theories in these books I read that suggest expert skill acquisition is more about effective practice and the 10000 hour rule.

The question is whether I'm actually willing to make the sacrifices I'd need to make in order to do that. Very big risk and no guarentees.

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Re: Current reputation of South Australia?
Reply #10 on: May 01, 2013, 03:16:04 AM
EDIT: It's much harder than it looks. It requires some odd fingerings and just getting my head around making the melody line sing out is requiring me to develop skills I didn't have 11 year back when I stopped playing piano. I've been playing for around a year now after the big break.[/i]

Good to see someone doing a non Bach fugue.  :D (Nothing agains the Bach ones, btw)

Practice the voices seperately and treat them as sometimes wrangling equals when they come together.
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Re: Current reputation of South Australia?
Reply #11 on: May 03, 2013, 11:13:02 AM
One of my former student went to Adelaide Conzervatory...below is the link

https://music.adelaide.edu.au/


Have some confidence in SA.

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Active repertoire:
Grieg Concerto
Schubert Sonata in Bb D.960
Prokofiev Etude op 2 no 1 & 4
Learning:
Bach Partita no 5 in G
Liszt Ballade no 2
Haydn Sonata Hob 16 : 50 in C
Prokofiev etude

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Re: Current reputation of South Australia?
Reply #13 on: May 03, 2013, 04:36:24 PM
Adelaide? Their airport is so small :) That's all I know.
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