recital program

[classicalnhiphop]

What would you all consider a perfect recital program in your opinion.  60 minutes approx
just give examples of pieces or even specific ones.
i hope that this is a more interesting post compared to my old ones that pissed yall off :/

[j_menz]

Who's playing? I makes quite a difference.

[classicalnhiphop]

for yourself to perform

[ajspiano]

What would you all consider a perfect recital program in your opinion.  60 minutes approx
just give examples of pieces or even specific ones.
i hope that this is a more interesting post compared to my old ones that pissed yall off :/

Czerny op 740 complete - fit to the time limit of 60 mins.

....

If I'm playing - my own arrangement of "my favourite things", the rach 3, chopin F#minor polonaise op 44..

[j_menz]

A series of 13 of the best parodies of 4'33. 

I'll do the real version straight as an encore.

[ajspiano]

A series of 13 of the best parodies of 4'33. 

I'll do the real version straight as an encore.

I would consider including some of this gentleman's work.

[j_menz]

I would consider including some of this gentleman's work.

Wouldn't that kinda be contrary to his point?

BTW, is that actually just you in a wig?

[ajspiano]

Wouldn't that kinda be contrary to his point?

BTW, is that actually just you in a wig?

shhh people will disown me for jazzing up beethoven.

..I don't actually really remember his point (was there one) - ..I just remember him playing the rondo from the pathetique, something about a concerto for a florist and some very unconventional scores.

[j_menz]

..I don't actually really remember his point (was there one)

That music is more about making than repeating verbatim what someone else has made.

[ajspiano]

That music is more about making than repeating verbatim what someone else has made.

Oh yes, that rings a bell.

I got the impression that if you read one of his scores you may be doing a lot more "making" than copying though. Didn't they force a creative reading methodology due to the somewhat unintelligible scoring.. where the actual notes would differentiate dependent on how a musician chose to interpret what was written?

[j_menz]

Oh yes, that rings a bell.

I got the impression that if you read one of his scores you may be doing a lot more "making" than copying though. Didn't they force a creative reading methodology due to the somewhat unintelligible scoring.. where the actual notes would differentiate dependent on how a musician chose to interpret what was written?

I think he'd prefer "innately flexible" to "unintelligible", but otherwise, yes.

[ajspiano]

I think he'd prefer "innately flexible"

that's probably a more polite way to put it yes..

[ajspiano]

Czerny op 740 complete - fit to the time limit of 60 mins.

On the above topic, francesco libetta does a remarkably musical job of this here..  if but a little too slow for such a time frame.

- if you can get past some of the more mechanically written studies at the beginning...

[j_menz]

- if you can get past some of the more mechanically written studies at the beginning...

I tried. I really did. Almost three whole minutes.....

[ajspiano]

I tried. I really did. Almost three whole minutes.....

hahahah

come on give him some credit, try this one.. I give you 5 seconds tops before you have to turn it off.

[j_menz]

hahahah

come on give him some credit, try this one.. I give you 5 seconds tops before you have to turn it off.

I took my earphones out. I could "listen" forever.

BTW, there seems to be an awful lot of these monstrosities on YT, and the pianos all sound a little odd to my ears.

[ajspiano]

I took my earphones out. I could "listen" forever.

BTW, there seems to be an awful lot of these monstrosities on YT, and the pianos all sound a little odd to my ears.

The first one i posted here I've listened to right through, it actually has some quite good moments - given that some of the studies do allow for it where others don't at all i think. The second is god awful. I honestly doubt its a piano, I think its a midi version its just SO mechanical and dry, I'm honestly not sure that any human can play like that.

And to give czerny's intent some thought, almost all the semiquaver passage work in these studies (and op 299) is marked at minim = 104-108 or equivalient. Personally, I can play using a certain quality of movement up to about 88/92 bpm, above that a new kind of quality has to take over. His active fingers, quiet arm, leggiero (among other qualities) approach starts to display itself as being mandatory.. where after the intense repetition of the arrangements may begin to act as a cycling of the right movement quality..

Assuming we think that that movement quality is a valid choice (which it will be if that kind of tempo is demanded - as it is in more than enough cases), I can see why someone may consider it a benefit to give them some thought as there may be not so much other repertoire that will expose that need so soon.

..and so whether or not you can stomach playing them, I don't know why anyone would bother playing them under tempo as many seem to in these youtube things... since that way you may spend significant time playing something very dull, and not even learn what you were supposed to anyway.

........

It strikes me as atleast a little interesting, since the notes in the arrangements are pretty easy, especially at the beginning of 299, but he immediately demands that tempo. Why not 70-85 bpm? which would be equally problematic for most developing pianists.

[chopin2015]

hahahah

come on give him some credit, try this one.. I give you 5 seconds tops before you have to turn it off.

I can't yet listen to anything longer than 45 minutes, divided by movements.

[j_menz]

I can't yet listen to anything longer than 45 minutes, divided by movements.

It's 50 studies in 6 Books. Divide away.

I personally need to divide Czerny's studies by drinks.

[chopin2015]

It's 50 studies in 6 Books. Divide away.

I personally need to divide Czerny's studies by drinks.

haha...Czerny seems like a not-so-hot date...

Chopin, on the other hand...

[ajspiano]

haha...Czerny seems like a not-so-hot date...

Chopin, on the other hand...

Maybe this will help?

[chopin2015]

Maybe this will help?

I can't...I'm married to Beethoven. 

[ajspiano]

I can't...I'm married to Beethoven. 

fred atleast was alive for a full 22 years post ludwig's death. You can probably have both.

czerny was also 8 years past chopin, but he was probably past his prime at that point.

[chopin2015]

You can probably have both.

hahah...I've never had 2 du...

Ok, I will stop right there.

bahaha.

[cabbynum]

I would consider including some of this gentleman's work.

I have never loved and hated someone so much

[pianoman53]

I would consider including some of this gentleman's work.

Ugh.. composers...

[furtwaengler]

Funny, I had not heard of Ted talks before this week, and this is the second one I've seen, the other being Reggie Watts. I guess crazy long hair is a requirement for Ted talks.