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Spatula

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Will there ever be the day that...
on: November 04, 2004, 01:04:14 AM
Will there ever be the day that almost all basic usage of intervals and rhythms will be used up and composed that when you compose a piece, coincidentaly that same interval and rhythm has already been used by another composer?

I know I mentioned this before but not much response was given.

It kinda freaks me out because I've got a pretty cool theme but I hope no one else has dreamt it up and then copyrighted it before I did.


And don't you find that some of the simplest melodies you wonder why you didn't come up with first?  Like take the Grieg Concerto for example...such a simple melody in the minor key...yet maybe it looks like one person put it down on paper and copyrighted it before...say Schubert came up with it. 

Offline DarkWind

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Re: Will there ever be the day that...
Reply #1 on: November 04, 2004, 03:38:38 AM
It's impossible, as you can arrange as many notes as you want at a time, and the number of notes you can use is ever changing. It can be a 4 note theme, it can be a 128492450480 note theme. The chance of making a theme exactly as long with the exact durations and the like are basically impossible. Although, it's interesting how some themes are so simple yet so effective.

Offline mosis

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Re: Will there ever be the day that...
Reply #2 on: November 04, 2004, 04:20:14 AM
If you have an infinite number of monkeys with an infinite number of pens and an infinite number of manuscript paper, could they compose everything that has and will be composed? :D

Spatula

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Re: Will there ever be the day that...
Reply #3 on: November 04, 2004, 05:26:00 AM
Maybe one monkey might have the brains of Beethoven...

We'll call him Monkeethoven ...

Offline jlh

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Re: Will there ever be the day that...
Reply #4 on: November 04, 2004, 09:24:09 AM
But there are examples of the same theme being used by different composers... take Haydn and Mozart for example.  There are a few themes in some of their works that are identical to one another.  It's as if they sat down to lunch one day and said, "ok, here's a theme, let's see who can come up with the best composition using this one."

They are also both known for reusing and transposing their own movements for different sonatas.
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Offline Ludwig Van Rachabji

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Re: Will there ever be the day that...
Reply #5 on: November 04, 2004, 08:44:08 PM
It's impossible, as you can arrange as many notes as you want at a time, and the number of notes you can use is ever changing. It can be a 4 note theme, it can be a 128492450480 note theme. The chance of making a theme exactly as long with the exact durations and the like are basically impossible. Although, it's interesting how some themes are so simple yet so effective.

Darkwind is correct.
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