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Offline lemons

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Scriabin etude op.8 no.12 help
on: August 02, 2013, 07:47:38 AM
Hi guys! (I'm new here :)).
So I finished Grade 8 a while ago and stopped piano lessons for the time being (focus on schoolwork) and have since been self-teaching myself pieces. This is one of the first pieces I've taught myself and I was looking for some feedback as to how I'm doing so far (been learning it for 2 months).
Please excuse the wrong notes and pause(s), noise from the pedal and keys ('clacking' is from my finger hitting the side of a black key), out of tune piano and the mobile phone recording quality.
Thanks!!

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Re: Scriabin etude op.8 no.12 help
Reply #1 on: August 03, 2013, 04:59:57 AM
Here's how I learned Scriabin Etude Op8 No12

Play it slow enough so that you can keep up with the music and without stopping, especially the parts preceding the chords section of the etude.

Don't focus on playing this fast, it will happen once you have fingering you can use consistently.
Play without pedal to get note clarity, then you have an easier time when adding the pedal in.

Perfection itself is imperfection.

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Re: Scriabin etude op.8 no.12 help
Reply #2 on: August 03, 2013, 11:20:46 PM
Thanks for your response!
So I've learned all the notes, which may make things easier. Would you say that now I should just play it at a slow tempo, without pedal, and then gradually speed up and adding in the pedal at the end?

theholygideons

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Re: Scriabin etude op.8 no.12 help
Reply #3 on: August 03, 2013, 11:51:46 PM
Definitely use a metronome and play in time as you speed up.
Count every 4 beats in a bar.

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Re: Scriabin etude op.8 no.12 help
Reply #4 on: August 06, 2013, 10:02:57 AM
Ok so playing with metronome it is, for now.
Do you have any tips for me on how to play bars 44 - 47? I just can't seem to make it sound 'good/right'.
Also, what other parts need to be fixed to make this at least somewhat presentable?
Thanks.

theholygideons

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Re: Scriabin etude op.8 no.12 help
Reply #5 on: August 06, 2013, 10:53:27 AM
You could just watch this guy's masterclass.
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Re: Scriabin etude op.8 no.12 help
Reply #6 on: October 23, 2023, 06:38:43 PM
That master class didn't really address the question that was asked. I too need on help on mm  44-47. In particular, what I hear pro's playing doesn't seem to match the left-hand score: they seem to put very heavy accents on the downbeats, creating a sort of stride effect, and one or two may not even being playing the upbeats. How did Scriabin play it?

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Re: Scriabin etude op.8 no.12 help
Reply #7 on: October 23, 2023, 07:47:08 PM
That master class didn't really address the question that was asked. I too need on help on mm  44-47. In particular, what I hear pro's playing doesn't seem to match the left-hand score: they seem to put very heavy accents on the downbeats, creating a sort of stride effect, and one or two may not even being playing the upbeats. How did Scriabin play it?

If you're talking about the LH, I've heard that some of the "pros" cheat and play a single note instead of an octave in those octave leaps... Also, this is late romantic music, you can take some time in those.  There are a few tutorials on YT on this etude.. did you search around?  There's also one with Scriabin playing it.
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