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Offline m1469

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10 ways in which you've deliberately treated people ...
on: September 01, 2013, 12:22:57 AM
that you'd never like to see the world treat your children.  

Can you think of any?
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Re: 10 ways in which you've deliberately treated people ...
Reply #1 on: September 01, 2013, 04:12:15 AM
Lady I will tell you in advance I have no concience.

You fill your heart with good deeds, while I fill my bank account with evil ones. There is no difference; your acts make someone happy while if I spend money to grease the gears of this capitalist economy I make someone happy as well. The lesson here is just as any problem can be solved by being righteous; every problem can as well be solved with money.

Some people are hardly deserving of kindness, I know people (alot) that if they were around when God (if any) said, "Let their be light" they'd have called the light gay, and plunged the universe back into darkness by squatting their [censor] over it.

Also i don't have any current spawns

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Re: 10 ways in which you've deliberately treated people ...
Reply #2 on: September 01, 2013, 11:43:29 AM
Lady I will tell you in advance I have no concience.

You fill your heart with good deeds, while I fill my bank account with evil ones. There is no difference; your acts make someone happy while if I spend money to grease the gears of this capitalist economy I make someone happy as well. The lesson here is just as any problem can be solved by being righteous; every problem can as well be solved with money.

Some people are hardly deserving of kindness, I know people (alot) that if they were around when God (if any) said, "Let their be light" they'd have called the light gay, and plunged the universe back into darkness by squatting their [censor] over it.

Also i don't have any current spawns 

You say you are older than 17 but younger than 22 ... let's put it at twenty .... 

MY!!!  you seem too young to have spawned too much evil in this world (as you seem not to be in jail or have avoided jail ... petty evil??) and playing the piano at that .... but I am surprised at your pronouncements!  too cynical about righteousness!

It is my personal opinion that somebody at 20 is NOT old enough to have developed a substantial and meaningful experience of this world, which is a function of time and exposure to come up with a such a firm and all encompassing view of goodness and evil.  :P ::)

BTW, anyone who plays and enjoys playing the piano, must have a soul and a conscience. ;D ;) :)
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Re: 10 ways in which you've deliberately treated people ...
Reply #3 on: September 01, 2013, 01:06:55 PM
BTW, anyone who plays and enjoys playing the piano, must have a soul and a conscience. ;D ;) :)

What if they've sold it though in order to play piano? You know, like a Crossroads thing?
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Re: 10 ways in which you've deliberately treated people ...
Reply #4 on: September 01, 2013, 10:45:30 PM
You say you are older than 17 but younger than 22 ... let's put it at twenty .... 

MY!!!  you seem too young to have spawned too much evil in this world (as you seem not to be in jail or have avoided jail ... petty evil??) and playing the piano at that .... but I am surprised at your pronouncements!  too cynical about righteousness!

It is my personal opinion that somebody at 20 is NOT old enough to have developed a substantial and meaningful experience of this world, which is a function of time and exposure to come up with a such a firm and all encompassing view of goodness and evil.  :P ::)

BTW, anyone who plays and enjoys playing the piano, must have a soul and a conscience. ;D ;) :)

I can assure you that I haven't ever been to jail or even close to one for that matter.

Don't get me wrong I wouldn't go in a random killing spree or kill someone just for the fun of it, nor rape because that is despicable and one of (many) the lowest points of human nature. I am for the lack of better words stoic and yes it affects my playing a bit, one of the few things I find joy nowadays and which I recon has improved my disposition.

I find the lack of justice in this world...annoying and somewhat disturbing, even the so called laws are made by people and thus imperfect and aimed to benefit those who know how to bend them not true justice.

Take for example the french nobleman Gilles de Rais, he killed God knows how many kids and the authorities and the church turned a blind eye until his wealth was so notorious that they decided to act, in the trial before being commited to the gallow he was stripped of his money and valuables which when to the church's private coffers.

He wasn't punished for being evil but rather because it was convenient to do so, furthermore it wasn't a divine judgement but human greed. That is one of many examples old and new.

What I am trying to say is that I strive to reach my goals without care for a selected few the rest including some blood relatives are just background noise at best or obstacles at worst. Out of 10billion people I can stand like 10 at most, humans are vapid insipid stupid creatures.

Naturally as you said so yourself it is likely my opinion and view of the world will change a bit here and there. Here is a omake for you.

He could see past the edge of plateau, as far as the northern mountains and capital. The great buildings shining, their brilliant spotlights leaving streaks across the land around it. Beautfiful stars shimmered in the distant ocean. "I hate everything I see." Of course, Senan was a cynical bastard so his opinion of the view was quite biased.

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Re: 10 ways in which you've deliberately treated people ...
Reply #5 on: September 02, 2013, 01:21:15 AM
Out of 10billion people I can stand like 10 at most

One hopes that a few of those, at least, are among the 7 billion actually alive at present.
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Re: 10 ways in which you've deliberately treated people ...
Reply #6 on: September 02, 2013, 01:51:43 AM
Sure.  Not going all out for someone.  If I've already done the extra step for people, am exhausted, and then another kid comes along who needs help but is argumentative, etc..   Oh well.  Good luck to them.   I give up.  Giving up I suppose.

Same idea for someone injuring themself.  If they're being a jerk and doing something dangerous... And then thinking that if they hurt themselves it would actually be better for everyone else.  Or if they didn't exist, it would actually be better for everyone else.


Deliberately...  I suppose rushing people along.  If I'm short on time and they're off topic with chit-chat... Or if need help with something but they're talking and talking and going in the wrong direction.  Sometimes I'll cut them off to hurry things up.


Ten ways?  And deliberately?  I was thinking deliberately *hurt*... Hm...   Ten might be tricky....

I suppose doing what someone asked while knowing that's not what they either meant or that what they asked for is the best thing for them.  But if your short on time and it's not your job...

I remember snapping at a student once just before a concert.  The kid was complaining about the music.  But he never practiced so I told him that.    Haha... It did shut him up though. 
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Re: 10 ways in which you've deliberately treated people ...
Reply #7 on: September 06, 2013, 01:01:26 AM
Not deliberately that I can remember. I have hurt people through ignorance and lack of thought though; my sins of omission in this regard would probably number in the hundreds, especially in my youth. I suppose treating strangers with the same compassion as that shown to one's children is an honourable ideal, but very difficult in practice.
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Re: 10 ways in which you've deliberately treated people ...
Reply #8 on: September 09, 2013, 08:53:07 AM
that you'd never like to see the world treat your children.  

Can you think of any?
Given the nature and content of some (though not all) of the responses to your question here, I ought perhaps to feel relieved that I don't have any children...

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Re: 10 ways in which you've deliberately treated people ...
Reply #9 on: September 09, 2013, 12:43:59 PM
The principle of karma means that if I mistreat someone, they must have deserved it somehow. 

Of course I don't deliberately do that.

But we humans have a large capacity for deceiving ourselves, and real misdeeds are very rarely deliberate, at least not consciously so. 

It takes effort to be self aware enough NOT to harm others inadvertently. 
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Re: 10 ways in which you've deliberately treated people ...
Reply #10 on: September 09, 2013, 11:37:13 PM
*Bob has unconsciously harmed himself by eating too many fruit smoothies.*
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Re: 10 ways in which you've deliberately treated people ...
Reply #11 on: September 11, 2013, 06:07:14 AM
I've acted terribly before. If I ever have a child I'd want them to handle the situations differently.
A girl at school was getting after me about not being a Christian. I had enough of that, I had been putting up with it for years.
I shouted something along the lines of "you think I give a flying F about anything your bible humping brain has to offer? Much less take any of it to heart? Is that something you expect to have happen? Are you that stupid? Etc" this was 3 years ago so I don't remember specifics but I remember a crowd of people around me glaring and then people yelled at me for making a girl cry and I just pushed through them and went to class.
I live in an extremely religious area
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Re: 10 ways in which you've deliberately treated people ...
Reply #12 on: September 12, 2013, 12:48:04 AM
I've acted terribly before. If I ever have a child I'd want them to handle the situations differently.
A girl at school was getting after me about not being a Christian. I had enough of that, I had been putting up with it for years.
I shouted something along the lines of "you think I give a flying F about anything your bible humping brain has to offer? Much less take any of it to heart? Is that something you expect to have happen? Are you that stupid? Etc" this was 3 years ago so I don't remember specifics but I remember a crowd of people around me glaring and then people yelled at me for making a girl cry and I just pushed through them and went to class.
I live in an extremely religious area


I misread that as being written by the crabbynun.  Haha.
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Re: 10 ways in which you've deliberately treated people ...
Reply #13 on: September 12, 2013, 06:29:26 AM
That's pretty good!
Haha I liked it!

I think it's funny, when writing about getting angry you infact get yourself a little worked up.
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