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Offline dagny_taggart

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Schubert Impromptu problems
on: November 24, 2013, 08:24:03 PM


I need help with the Trio of this Schubert Impromptu, A flat. The whole section is triplets and I cannot seem to get a handle of doing so many in a row without my hands weakening or becoming uneven. My teacher says it sounds like I have uneven weight. Are there any particular exercises at becoming good at a section/piece consisting of triplets? Or any advice? I do want to make it sound like this version on youtube:


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Re: Schubert Impromptu problems
Reply #1 on: November 25, 2013, 05:52:10 PM

I need help with the Trio of this Schubert Impromptu, A flat. The whole section is triplets and I cannot seem to get a handle of doing so many in a row without my hands weakening or becoming uneven. My teacher says it sounds like I have uneven weight. 

Your teacher should advise you and teach you how to overcome this problem. It is the teacher's job!
rk

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Re: Schubert Impromptu problems
Reply #2 on: November 25, 2013, 07:54:10 PM
Your teacher should advise you and teach you how to overcome this problem. It is the teacher's job!

Agreed.  At the same time, it's still worth asking online to see if people have suggestions for practice techniques.

Have you tried blocking the triplets into chords and making sure that your hand knows where it's going in advance of having to play the note?  That usually solves a lot of evenness problems for me.
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Re: Schubert Impromptu problems
Reply #3 on: November 26, 2013, 05:51:45 PM
Your teacher should advise you and teach you how to overcome this problem. It is the teacher's job!
rk

Yes. It is my teacher's job. But her advice clearly is not working. So I came here. Once again, weird thing to say on a board which exchanges advice.....

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Re: Schubert Impromptu problems
Reply #4 on: November 26, 2013, 05:53:14 PM
Your teacher should advise you and teach you how to overcome this problem. It is the teacher's job!

Agreed.  At the same time, it's still worth asking online to see if people have suggestions for practice techniques.

Have you tried blocking the triplets into chords and making sure that your hand knows where it's going in advance of having to play the note?  That usually solves a lot of evenness problems for me.

Yes. I used the blocked chord technique.

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Re: Schubert Impromptu problems
Reply #5 on: November 26, 2013, 07:34:23 PM
Yes. I used the blocked chord technique.

This is good in the initial stage to learn the notes, but to play the middle section of this impromptu up to standard, it may be just what you have to get rid of, especially if you don't have really huge hands.

Instead, use a "walking hand/arm" approach from finger to finger (like walking with your legs) with NO attempt at all at holding or preparing full positions. Instead of going heavily downwards into the key, create the sensation as if you are pushing yourself up with each fingertip.
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Re: Schubert Impromptu problems
Reply #6 on: November 28, 2013, 03:57:27 PM
Quote from: dima_76557link=topic=53348.msg576866#msg576866 date=1385494463
This is good in the initial stage to learn the notes, but to play the middle section of this impromptu up to standard, it may be just what you have to get rid of, especially if you don't have really huge hands.

Instead, use a "walking hand/arm" approach from finger to finger (like walking with your legs) with NO attempt at all at holding or preparing full positions. Instead of going heavily downwards into the key, create the sensation as if you are pushing yourself up with each fingertip.

That sounds like really sound advice. Thank you. I will try that and let you know the results.
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