does anyone feel this about liszt's music (too embellished)?

[swagmaster420x]

i really like liszt's melodies. sometimes I feel like his cadenzas actually interrupt melodies that I want to hear more of instead of developing the music. some pieces by liszt to me actually just sound like a bunch of cadenzas put together with chords/filler stuck between

e.g. this is not such a good example, but in this piece i REALly liked the part at 0:41 and expected the heroic-anthem-sounding melody to continue, but it was interrupted by fking twinkles

and to clear up, by "cadenzas" i don't mean any passage with strings of fast notes/chords. I actually really like a lot of fast passages in this piece. By cadenza i'm generally referring to passages that are written in the score in really small notes

[visitor]

That's how I feel about Chopins music in general , we'll that and I don't think the melodies are all that great either....

[brogers70]

I think Liszt did amazing things with piano technique, but I find his music mostly a showpiece for his technical inventions. For example, Un Sospiro is technically really cool, but as a piece of music, if I were unaware of the hand switching business, just so-so.

[ale_ius]

Liszt was a genius.  His late period is probably his most progressive and interesting,i.e. once he was part of the church/clergy (he is a sort of precursor where Debussy and Ravel would eventually pick up).

I love this: