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Offline Mayla

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What is the true value of a dollar?
« on: January 12, 2014, 05:09:24 AM »
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #1 on: January 12, 2014, 05:18:26 AM »
A human soul, two if it is an orphan's.
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #2 on: January 12, 2014, 06:26:04 AM »
Control?  Power?   Persuasion?  Ability?
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #3 on: January 12, 2014, 09:56:51 AM »
Not sure, but a good banjo is about 4,000 of them.

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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #4 on: January 12, 2014, 07:02:55 PM »
Not sure, but a good banjo is about 4,000 of them.

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You surely jest?
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #5 on: January 12, 2014, 09:45:46 PM »
Unfortunately not. There is a Bacon & Day for sale at an American dealer for $19,000.

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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #6 on: January 12, 2014, 10:16:12 PM »
I only trade with chickens and other livestock.
I bought my Steinway with 2 half size pigs and a baby lamb.
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #7 on: January 13, 2014, 04:22:42 AM »
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #8 on: January 13, 2014, 05:08:41 AM »
None.  They won't waste time selling empty cans for only a dollar.  You'll have to buy them in bulk.
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #9 on: January 13, 2014, 05:11:04 AM »
None.  They won't waste time selling empty cans for only a dollar.  You'll have to buy them in bulk.

I'll sell you one. You'll have to pay shipping, handling and insurance though. Your one dollar empty can can be yours for $23.49.
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #10 on: January 13, 2014, 10:06:53 AM »
Or any single unit of paper money in your Country.
As Lewis Carroll's Humpty Dumpty might have said, it's more or less what anyone wants it to be, given that it is subject to a raft of market conditions. As to "single units", if by that you mean 1 of any particular currency, I imagine that not so very many countries' currencies even have paper money - i.e. a banknote - to the value of 1 of a particular denomination; for starters, the British pound is a coin, as is the Euro, so there's 18 countries already removed from the 1-unit paper currency thing - and then there's your own country!...

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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #11 on: January 13, 2014, 04:12:56 PM »
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #12 on: January 13, 2014, 04:53:40 PM »
Feel free to extend liberties to include coin.  :P
OK - in which case the answer (at least for me) is contained in the first sentence of my previous post!

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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #13 on: January 13, 2014, 06:08:34 PM »
I've heard that one dollar should be around the half of two dollars.

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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #14 on: January 13, 2014, 08:46:39 PM »
I've heard that one dollar should be around the half of two dollars.
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #15 on: January 14, 2014, 12:01:49 AM »
Value... I'd say not much.

Probably falling in confidence around the world too.
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #16 on: January 14, 2014, 08:25:09 AM »
Value... I'd say not much.

Probably falling in confidence around the world too.
Less than a Bob, I'd suggest...

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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #17 on: January 14, 2014, 12:38:50 PM »
What's a Bob?
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #18 on: January 14, 2014, 12:59:46 PM »
What's a Bob?
It would be more correct to ask what was a bob; it was a slang term for the British shilling that was equivalent to £0.05 - 5 pence in other words - until the absurdly complex and unwieldy subdivisions of the British pound - into 240 pence, of all things - gave way in 1971 to the present system in which it's divided into 100.

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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #19 on: January 14, 2014, 06:53:37 PM »
Unfortunately not. There is a Bacon & Day for sale at an American dealer for $19,000.

Thal

For that price, I can buy a decent muselaar, clavichord, and theorbenflügel with cash to spare.

And you're saying that is 19,000 dollars for a single BANJO?
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #20 on: January 14, 2014, 08:25:51 PM »
And you're saying that is 19,000 dollars for a single BANJO?

I got it wrong. It was 19,500 and the instrument is now sold: http://www.billcampbanjos.com/banjo%20for%20sale%20BD9.htm

Rumour has it, that when Akira Tsumara was spending 6 millions dollars on acquiring a collection of well over a thousand banjos, he paid 150,000 dollars for a particularly rare Gibson.

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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #21 on: January 14, 2014, 09:52:13 PM »
I got it wrong. It was 19,500 and the instrument is now sold: http://www.billcampbanjos.com/banjo%20for%20sale%20BD9.htm

Rumour has it, that when Akira Tsumara was spending 6 millions dollars on acquiring a collection of well over a thousand banjos, he paid 150,000 dollars for a particularly rare Gibson.

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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #22 on: January 14, 2014, 10:18:12 PM »
Then perhaps it is good that you do not collect banjos like me, because then you would have no money as well as no words.

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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #23 on: January 14, 2014, 11:03:34 PM »
Then perhaps it is good that you do not collect banjos like me, because then you would have no money as well as no words.

*** wonders if banjos or concerti are the likely major cause of impoverishment.......
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #24 on: January 14, 2014, 11:40:33 PM »
You folks gave some very provocative answers but what was she asking? What type of answer was she expecting?
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #25 on: January 15, 2014, 12:17:55 AM »
I was thinking the usual philosophical question.  Except it's dollar.... Australia uses dollars too I think.  Maybe she meant Australian dollars.   

Why not the value of money then?  A dollar is a small amount.  Why bother wondering what the value of a small denomination of money is?  Why not, what's the value of $10?  Or $100? 
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #26 on: January 15, 2014, 04:28:21 AM »
*** wonders if banjos or concerti are the likely major cause of impoverishment.......

Across everything in a concerto, you'd have possibly hundreds of thousands in instruments.
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #27 on: January 15, 2014, 08:18:40 AM »
*** wonders if banjos or concerti are the likely major cause of impoverishment.......

My new years resolution not to buy any more concerto scores has failed, but I lasted until 2nd January.

I think that is rather good.

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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #28 on: January 15, 2014, 09:26:57 AM »
My new years resolution not to buy any more concerto scores has failed, but I lasted until 2nd January.

I think that is rather good.
It's arguably both good and bad; the bad part (insofar as it goes) is in your self-confessed lack of will-power in being unable to sustain a resolution for more than 30 hours or so but the vastly more important good part is in breaking a resolution that you ought never to have made in the first place!

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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #29 on: January 15, 2014, 04:09:19 PM »
anybody familiar with the US country song "Silver Threads and Golden Needles"?  There's your answer...
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #30 on: January 15, 2014, 04:26:05 PM »
My new years resolution not to buy any more concerto scores has failed, but I lasted until 2nd January.

I think that is rather good.

Thal

You lasted to January 2nd? Wow, that's a day longer than most.
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #31 on: January 15, 2014, 07:27:02 PM »
I was thinking the usual philosophical question.  Except it's dollar.... Australia uses dollars too I think.  Maybe she meant Australian dollars.   

Why not the value of money then?  A dollar is a small amount.  Why bother wondering what the value of a small denomination of money is?  Why not, what's the value of $10?  Or $100? 

Obviously, the value of any currency is what it will buy at any given moment. It can't be that simple a question. I would like her to step out and tell us what she is talking about.
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #32 on: January 16, 2014, 01:38:29 AM »
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #33 on: January 16, 2014, 02:23:42 AM »
Yeah, you should just know.

And it has a name!

So anyway...  What were saying again Oxy?
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #34 on: January 16, 2014, 02:31:47 AM »
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #35 on: January 16, 2014, 02:35:18 AM »
Yeah, it felt like deja vu. 

*Bob makes half-hearted cat hiss with hand claw gesture and wonders where the accent is in deja.*
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #36 on: January 16, 2014, 02:38:08 AM »
Did the original post change?  I didn't notice it.... Haha.  Except that's serious.

The small unit of currency can be used to make change for the larger units.  I suppose it could become the most worthless currency since you'll probably need a lot of the smaller units to add up to the next larger unit.
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #37 on: January 17, 2014, 12:22:10 AM »
Actually I'm not surprised by the response.

Compared to any unit of currency, an original thought is much more valuable.
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #38 on: January 17, 2014, 12:24:45 AM »
Compared to any unit of currency, an original thought is much more valuable.

If I had a dollar for every original thought that wasn't, I'd be rich.
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #39 on: January 17, 2014, 12:29:29 AM »
Can't rule out time travel.  Someone from the past travelled forward, stole your idea, and returned to the past.  It keeps happening, doesn't it?  Well, if you found someone who kept generating original ideas, with all the effort involved in time travel, wouldn't you keep going back to that person?  Another check -- Are you a billionaire?  Someone's probably stealing those original ideas that would have made billions of dollars for you.  Those time travelling bastards...
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Re: What is the true value of a dollar?
«Reply #40 on: January 17, 2014, 12:33:55 AM »
Hmm.   *Bob thinks we scared off the Mayla.*
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